Clover Park School District in Lakewood, Washington, has just taken an extremely interesting step to combat ‘systemic racism’ in the schools: taking an offender’s race into account when deciding on punishment. Jason Rantz writes: The Clover Park School District debated its new “culturally responsive” student discipline policy. It means student discipline would not be consistent based on conduct. Instead, a school considers a student’s race and background. It would likely offer harsher punishments to white students, even if the conduct is identical to that of a Black or Hispanic student.
because 'racism' goes round and round and round...so, for mixed kids, do we do a genetic panel to determine how white or black they are before they are disciplined if at all?
I acknowledge and love my mixedness, what I know of it. I look French, I look Romanian, I look Metis, perhaps Algonquin, (which is not a single people but rather a more modern group) and who knows what else I am. I came out very different from my family. I hated the church out of the gate, feigned illness to get out of going. Priests creeped me out. Found out why later. I always felt things were darker and wronger than I could elucidate at the time. Maybe some leftover cellular memory, one of my French relatives had a sirname of Dit Sansoucy, which probably meant they were brought to Canada from France (pre 1700) to hunt people. I am from all these things. I have had to come to a place that rejects the idea that the sins of my foremothers or forefathers can be addressed by me in this life interpersonally. I am not compliant in that, though I quite willing to recognise it. We are all full of conflicts inside no doubt, but that is not a thing to take out on anyone else. Just to try to understand.
It's a valid point. It's amazing to me to see how intersectionality is playing out. Like how the feminists are pissed at the trans. You can only do mental and societal hurdles for so long before you can't. And we're hopefully getting to the place where all of this bullshit melts down and people just say "fuck this, let's be realistic and normal again."
Like all those feminists who are arguing that a trans woman (i.e. man) shouldn't be competing in women's collegiate swimming? I haven't heard a damn peep out of them!
I had some good ones, (maybe 4?) in my time at school (18 years) , who thought independently, but the rest (97%) were mostly babysitting and going along with everything, which they are well rewarded for after that golden tenure!. I think self directed learning is really the only learning, once the basic skills are established.
Anyone else get the sense that a bunch of hateful people have taken over school policy and infected too many schools as teachers? The more I read the more these people come across like me and spirited losers. They can’t go around being overtly mean to adults just to be mean, so they take it out in kids. So sad. School choice is the only way yo save our kids.
I get that feeling every time I walk past the elementary school down the street and see the bumper stickers on the teachers' cars, actually. I need a bumper sticker that says, "Your bumper sticker is why I homeschool."
I am glad they are being honest about it, actually.
My teacher friends tell me this is happening everywhere anyway, and they actually feel like-- once again-- the system is benefiting the white kids. Discipline is the foundation for everything else one must achieve at school. Refusing to mete it out to those who need it most is like saying we shouldn't teach arithmetic to the kids who struggle with it. (Which I guess is also happening; arithmetic is the problem, because no kid should have to struggle.)
There is a predominate culture in the US. Part of the school setting is related to getting children socialized into that culture. In accepting that some students can be arrogant non-conforming louts defying their teachers causes all sorts of classroom disruption and terrible behavior modelling. Takes time to build order in an unruly room. Kids that can't accept restrictions on their conduct lead to adults who think they can do as they wish.
Just because you can't take the heat from enforcing policy doesn't mean abandon the policy. If a teacher makes Charlie leave the classroom it's wise to know why, not to immediacy decide attributes of a teacher who must create order. Teachers already struggle to do their best, whether good or bad, impediments to that result in the eventual loss of teachers, usually the good ones.
There's no way my kids would be in a public school today. No way. Even if I had to work 3 jobs. There is *always* a way to get our kids out of this insane system if we really want/care to.
Agree. My kids are 2nd/ 5th. They have never stepped foot in a public school. Whatever we have sacrificed has been worth it. They are thriving. We would give up our home before their education.
The state officially defines “culturally responsive” as “knowledge of student cultural histories and contexts, as well as family norms and values in different cultures; knowledge and skills in accessing community resources and community and parent outreach; and skills in adapting instruction to students’ experiences and identifying cultural contexts for individual students.”
If Hispanic kids cause trouble, the solution is simple - call their mother. And just stand back and let her take care of it... If it's severe enough, ask for the grandmother to come along.
And not just Hispanic! This used to be true in black communities as well (it is NOT simply the "legacy of slavery" as some academics nowadays like to complain-- they need to read Lancy's "The Anthropology of Childhood" and also learn to be a little less patronizing). It is true among many Asians and white people who haven't been touched by the American Upper Class Stigma Machine. Kids thrive when they know the adults in their lives care for them, and sending the message that discipline=abuse is worse brainwashing than telling little boys and girls that how they "feel" determines their gender.
Heard about this yesterday and was amazed at the stupidity of this discipline policy. It is very racist against everyone. Why should discipline be a respecter of a person's race, it shouldn't. The low expectations towards children, who will in all actuality no longer be held to follow the rules, is going to reinforce a very misplaced sense of entitlement and also enable the child's dysfunction to become stronger. I am so amazed and repulsed that there are so many idiots in positions they have no business in, and their ability to affect us in such life altering ways. One of my problems with all of this nonsense is that I remember a time long ago when unstable people were not in positions of authority (well not as much as they are now).
I keep telling people not to stunt their children's growth with public schooling. It's designed to accomplish the goals of the government, and those haven't been good goals since the outset of public education. There's a reason the cheese in a mousetrap is free... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZp7eVJNJuw
I wonder if King would have spoken out about these insanities, or would have been consumed by the woke insanity. His kids have seemed fairly rational about these things, but I haven't heard from them lately. I wonder if they've been silenced. It's fairly certain most people know this is wrong, but just don't care. It's an ugly part of human nature that drives some people to ignore morals if it gives them advantages. That can't be avoided, only restrained by social or legal pressures. In other words, it only occurs if we alow it.
There’s a pretty spectacular episode of a show called The Boondocks that considers what might have happened if King lived. It’s a little old, but I always think of it.
What the hell is happening out there in Washington, Commander?
It’s really refreshing to see that no matter what the State is endlessly inventive creating justifications for hitting people with sticks.
If you're white, get your kids the fuck out of this school district.
Yes, I know, you can't, because reasons.
because 'racism' goes round and round and round...so, for mixed kids, do we do a genetic panel to determine how white or black they are before they are disciplined if at all?
Any sort of color is immediately "black".... but we're the racists.
I believe Democrats invented the "one drop rule" in the first place.
I acknowledge and love my mixedness, what I know of it. I look French, I look Romanian, I look Metis, perhaps Algonquin, (which is not a single people but rather a more modern group) and who knows what else I am. I came out very different from my family. I hated the church out of the gate, feigned illness to get out of going. Priests creeped me out. Found out why later. I always felt things were darker and wronger than I could elucidate at the time. Maybe some leftover cellular memory, one of my French relatives had a sirname of Dit Sansoucy, which probably meant they were brought to Canada from France (pre 1700) to hunt people. I am from all these things. I have had to come to a place that rejects the idea that the sins of my foremothers or forefathers can be addressed by me in this life interpersonally. I am not compliant in that, though I quite willing to recognise it. We are all full of conflicts inside no doubt, but that is not a thing to take out on anyone else. Just to try to understand.
Brilliantly said!
To Quote the great Alex Jones, "My DNA is 1776!" Those of us who fight for freedom and acceptance are our own people. All who fight are welcome!
It's a valid point. It's amazing to me to see how intersectionality is playing out. Like how the feminists are pissed at the trans. You can only do mental and societal hurdles for so long before you can't. And we're hopefully getting to the place where all of this bullshit melts down and people just say "fuck this, let's be realistic and normal again."
Like all those feminists who are arguing that a trans woman (i.e. man) shouldn't be competing in women's collegiate swimming? I haven't heard a damn peep out of them!
It strikes me that teachers are currently among the most idiotic people still walking this earth.
I had some good ones, (maybe 4?) in my time at school (18 years) , who thought independently, but the rest (97%) were mostly babysitting and going along with everything, which they are well rewarded for after that golden tenure!. I think self directed learning is really the only learning, once the basic skills are established.
Anyone else get the sense that a bunch of hateful people have taken over school policy and infected too many schools as teachers? The more I read the more these people come across like me and spirited losers. They can’t go around being overtly mean to adults just to be mean, so they take it out in kids. So sad. School choice is the only way yo save our kids.
I get that feeling every time I walk past the elementary school down the street and see the bumper stickers on the teachers' cars, actually. I need a bumper sticker that says, "Your bumper sticker is why I homeschool."
I am glad they are being honest about it, actually.
My teacher friends tell me this is happening everywhere anyway, and they actually feel like-- once again-- the system is benefiting the white kids. Discipline is the foundation for everything else one must achieve at school. Refusing to mete it out to those who need it most is like saying we shouldn't teach arithmetic to the kids who struggle with it. (Which I guess is also happening; arithmetic is the problem, because no kid should have to struggle.)
There is a predominate culture in the US. Part of the school setting is related to getting children socialized into that culture. In accepting that some students can be arrogant non-conforming louts defying their teachers causes all sorts of classroom disruption and terrible behavior modelling. Takes time to build order in an unruly room. Kids that can't accept restrictions on their conduct lead to adults who think they can do as they wish.
Just because you can't take the heat from enforcing policy doesn't mean abandon the policy. If a teacher makes Charlie leave the classroom it's wise to know why, not to immediacy decide attributes of a teacher who must create order. Teachers already struggle to do their best, whether good or bad, impediments to that result in the eventual loss of teachers, usually the good ones.
There's no way my kids would be in a public school today. No way. Even if I had to work 3 jobs. There is *always* a way to get our kids out of this insane system if we really want/care to.
Agree. My kids are 2nd/ 5th. They have never stepped foot in a public school. Whatever we have sacrificed has been worth it. They are thriving. We would give up our home before their education.
I wish you had been my Dad. Congratulations for giving your kids the best chance at sanity.
The state officially defines “culturally responsive” as “knowledge of student cultural histories and contexts, as well as family norms and values in different cultures; knowledge and skills in accessing community resources and community and parent outreach; and skills in adapting instruction to students’ experiences and identifying cultural contexts for individual students.”
The State. Knowledge.
Pick one.
Far to much of society has been duped to see psychopathy as social justice, by the very institutions that breed it.
Wokeness is like eating shit but instead of considering your diet you endlessly debate the shade of asshole from which to receive it.
If Hispanic kids cause trouble, the solution is simple - call their mother. And just stand back and let her take care of it... If it's severe enough, ask for the grandmother to come along.
This works for Irish kids too.
And not just Hispanic! This used to be true in black communities as well (it is NOT simply the "legacy of slavery" as some academics nowadays like to complain-- they need to read Lancy's "The Anthropology of Childhood" and also learn to be a little less patronizing). It is true among many Asians and white people who haven't been touched by the American Upper Class Stigma Machine. Kids thrive when they know the adults in their lives care for them, and sending the message that discipline=abuse is worse brainwashing than telling little boys and girls that how they "feel" determines their gender.
Heard about this yesterday and was amazed at the stupidity of this discipline policy. It is very racist against everyone. Why should discipline be a respecter of a person's race, it shouldn't. The low expectations towards children, who will in all actuality no longer be held to follow the rules, is going to reinforce a very misplaced sense of entitlement and also enable the child's dysfunction to become stronger. I am so amazed and repulsed that there are so many idiots in positions they have no business in, and their ability to affect us in such life altering ways. One of my problems with all of this nonsense is that I remember a time long ago when unstable people were not in positions of authority (well not as much as they are now).
I keep telling people not to stunt their children's growth with public schooling. It's designed to accomplish the goals of the government, and those haven't been good goals since the outset of public education. There's a reason the cheese in a mousetrap is free... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZp7eVJNJuw
Wow.
I just--I just...
I wonder if King would have spoken out about these insanities, or would have been consumed by the woke insanity. His kids have seemed fairly rational about these things, but I haven't heard from them lately. I wonder if they've been silenced. It's fairly certain most people know this is wrong, but just don't care. It's an ugly part of human nature that drives some people to ignore morals if it gives them advantages. That can't be avoided, only restrained by social or legal pressures. In other words, it only occurs if we alow it.
There’s a pretty spectacular episode of a show called The Boondocks that considers what might have happened if King lived. It’s a little old, but I always think of it.
https://youtu.be/QHCSL-AKd3w
NSFW due to language. Let’s just say he isn’t pleased.
Oh….and fuck this state. I mean seriously…..fuck this state!