As kids we act like the little sadists kids are, and (ideally) get told off in such a way we feel shame, and also (when the cying stops) get it explained to us why and how what we did was wrong.
The old saw of "do as I say, not as I do" have some merit, even if the original meaning has been debased into referring to hypocrisy and not the…
As kids we act like the little sadists kids are, and (ideally) get told off in such a way we feel shame, and also (when the cying stops) get it explained to us why and how what we did was wrong.
The old saw of "do as I say, not as I do" have some merit, even if the original meaning has been debased into referring to hypocrisy and not the simple fact that an adult has so much more experience and intellect than a child, that any real in-depth explanation (especially in a heated moment or an emergency) becomes unresaonable or gobbledygook.
We often carry with us the exact turning point, when we started to develop a moral sense on our own. Some examples of when that doesn't work:
Sociopaths can't, it's the main thing making them a problem.
Kids that instead are taught norms that run counter to society (say moslem kids in a western nation being told hating and abusing jews is a sacred duty) cannot be reached by the shaming mechanism.
Pedophiles after their first episode of abuse can no longer be helped; they will always commit further abuses because there is no going back for them, and the shaming-mechaism has been subjugated by rationalisation instead.
Autistics have stunted socialisation ability and development; the low-functioning often withdraws and the high-functioning becomes arrigant and dismissive of what they see as play-acting, while still experiencing emotion, sham and guilt but without the practice needed to handle/process them correctly. Which is why there's tragically often an overlap between HFA's, psychosis and schizophrenia. But I digress.
What you demontrate is what the greeks taught: Gnothi Seauton, know yourself. That is rare.
Thank you, that is very generous (is that the right expression?) of you. Though in all honesty, if no-one shared or asked, there'd be no-start for my train of thought, would it?
It's been a journey, true indeed, for many of us who for one reason or a thosuand somewhere, somewhen decided to stop, stand and say: "No more. I will not do violence to myself, my mind, my soul anymore."
I still remember many of the revelatory moments I've had (slow learner...). Sitting on a ledge looking down on my droogs and realising it's rehab-yoyo, prison-pinball, the grave or shape up. And it's on me. And half a minute after that thought hits me like a steel-toed boot to the nads, I meet my wife. She worried about the walking skeleton sitting on a ledge like some biker-jacket sporting gargoyle.
The rest is history as they say.
See you in the stacks, 'cause it's dinnertime here now.
I find that the exchange of ideas here in the comments threads brings out the best discourse, and is why I don't even think of expressing the fertility of my mind in essays anywhere else. It's the living waters one needs for fruitfulness.
As kids we act like the little sadists kids are, and (ideally) get told off in such a way we feel shame, and also (when the cying stops) get it explained to us why and how what we did was wrong.
The old saw of "do as I say, not as I do" have some merit, even if the original meaning has been debased into referring to hypocrisy and not the simple fact that an adult has so much more experience and intellect than a child, that any real in-depth explanation (especially in a heated moment or an emergency) becomes unresaonable or gobbledygook.
We often carry with us the exact turning point, when we started to develop a moral sense on our own. Some examples of when that doesn't work:
Sociopaths can't, it's the main thing making them a problem.
Kids that instead are taught norms that run counter to society (say moslem kids in a western nation being told hating and abusing jews is a sacred duty) cannot be reached by the shaming mechanism.
Pedophiles after their first episode of abuse can no longer be helped; they will always commit further abuses because there is no going back for them, and the shaming-mechaism has been subjugated by rationalisation instead.
Autistics have stunted socialisation ability and development; the low-functioning often withdraws and the high-functioning becomes arrigant and dismissive of what they see as play-acting, while still experiencing emotion, sham and guilt but without the practice needed to handle/process them correctly. Which is why there's tragically often an overlap between HFA's, psychosis and schizophrenia. But I digress.
What you demontrate is what the greeks taught: Gnothi Seauton, know yourself. That is rare.
It's been a hard journey getting here.
And I would say you're the best explainer of these things I've ever encountered, anywhere.
Thank you, that is very generous (is that the right expression?) of you. Though in all honesty, if no-one shared or asked, there'd be no-start for my train of thought, would it?
It's been a journey, true indeed, for many of us who for one reason or a thosuand somewhere, somewhen decided to stop, stand and say: "No more. I will not do violence to myself, my mind, my soul anymore."
I still remember many of the revelatory moments I've had (slow learner...). Sitting on a ledge looking down on my droogs and realising it's rehab-yoyo, prison-pinball, the grave or shape up. And it's on me. And half a minute after that thought hits me like a steel-toed boot to the nads, I meet my wife. She worried about the walking skeleton sitting on a ledge like some biker-jacket sporting gargoyle.
The rest is history as they say.
See you in the stacks, 'cause it's dinnertime here now.
I find that the exchange of ideas here in the comments threads brings out the best discourse, and is why I don't even think of expressing the fertility of my mind in essays anywhere else. It's the living waters one needs for fruitfulness.