I have yet to meet a bureaucrat who can say, "I was wrong." The fundamental difference between government and the private sector is that in the private sector the objective is to achieve diligence; in government, it is to prove it.
I don't know, peeps. I think everyone's pessimism is reasonable, all things considered.
But I think the truth will become known, and our police State's actions exposed. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but the courts are starting to speak (Whitmer, J6, CDC overreach, ivory tower settlements,...). Next up, the midterms. And parents are wising up to the corrupt education establishment. The Dems OWN that mess. And the Administration seems to think forgiving student debt will win votes. I think they got another think coming!
Today, we have substack, and Twitter is about to blow up in the right direction. Y'all scan/peruse RealClearPolitics, right? The writers on the Left are writing with fear and cya, if not outright mea culpas.
I remember watching High Noon with my dad, and hearing him mutter under his breath, "He's gonna get 'em." I got that same feeling now.
Janet Reno was a strange one. I always got the feeling that she genuinely thought children were being abused, but even were that the case, the Federal response/tactics were absurd.
IIRC nobody even thought that at the start of the whole thing. It was a gun investigation and the feds had ample opportunity to arrest Koresh while he was out and about. Once the press started asking hard questions (imagine that!), the government trotted out the 'abused kids' line.
And Ruby Ridge. Shot a mother dead from 100 yards, a gung ho FBI did. I believe she was holding a baby at the time. Sorry no link; If I searched, I'd get sick to my stomach all over again.
Yes, the FBI issued shoot on sight orders. Most refused to follow them knowing them to be unlawful orders. One criminal followed them, shooting dead a young mother as she was holding her baby. Before then, what alerted the family was their dog barking. The son, a young boy, if I recall correctly, was shot in the back as he ran back towards his home after witnessing his dog get shot. The criminal case against the father that led to the raid was thrown out. The FBI entrapped him. An undercover FBI agent hired him to cut down a firearm’s barrel, which he did, but it was still too long to be in violation of the law they charged him with. Yes, the big wigs in federal law enforcement today were up to no good decades. At least some of their dirty deeds were known at the time and we let them keep their positions and rise to the top of their agencies. What did we expect?
I own that chilling documentary. There's a few things that amaze me when I reflect on that year: First, there wasn't really any alternative media except in a few magazines and AM radio talk shows. Secondly, most of the people I knew at the time saw through the whole charade *without* alternative media. That being said, have people become dumber in 30 years, or has the propaganda gotten better? Maybe both? Because I am quite sure that this whole covid mind effing wouldn't have worked that year, even with corporate media being the main source of news.
People were more critical before the event of the internet precisely because information was more restricted: if there are only a few sources and no realistic way of doing your inquiry, you become more sceptical since it is easier for persons with the right assets to lie to you.
Conversely, there is a depressing logic that if there are many sources and anyone can relatively easily do their own research on an issue or topic, "they" wouldn't dare try to lie since they would be caught out, so no need to check.
And of course if"they" were lying, "someone" would of said "something".
And the confusing of many different titles and publications meaning free press/speech, with actual content and real diversity of opinion: the fewer the owners, the greater the stremlining. After all, sofware can (re)write articles just fine nowadays and since reporting and clicks take clear financial/economic priority over any kind of content, well here we are - capitalist news meaning lowest common denominator buzzwords in every article, texts written by pattern and rote, and don't rock the boat; almost Taylorist or Fordian in how it's produced, really.
Add to that our confusion that if some outlet reports crank stories all day long, all their stories are always crank stories and wrong and vice versa. Every single story must be understood on its own first and foremost - imagine how many people had reported problems with the water in Flint and been fobbed off as hysterics before US national news picked up on it, and all of a sudden it is true and important because Michael Moore is talking about it?
Plus of course our biased minds: if we like the news anchor or reporter on a personal level, we are more likely to believe them.
A dangerous coctail to be sure, and too much a chore for someone working a 50 hour week for minimum wage.
Waco has always been a travesty. But it was in Waco and was portrayed as crazy people and impacted almost no one except those there.
The Covid disaster has impacted everyone, and cannot be remaindered to the "crazy people" pile I hope. With luck it will be much harder to hide/memory-hole a disaster that has made life worse for most everyone then some religious offshoot in Texas.
It may not have directly impacted anyone other than those that were there that day. But as an event that showed the corruption of the federal government, it had tremendous ripple effects. Just ask the J6 protestors that are still in prison without being charged.
There is little question that the Federal government is fundamentally corrupt. Again, the J6 protestors being in prison is a travesty right up there with Waco. But it is still a relative handful of folks. (That does not excuse it -- I find it utterly reprehensible and against everything in which I believe, especially as murderers are let out with no bail.) The difference with covid, one must hope, is that virtually EVERYONE has been impacted and the number of people with an ax to grind is too large to put in jail or shoot/burn. So I am hoping for a more just outcome. Maybe I am just being Pollyanna, but the numbers are overwhelming if people will hold feet to fire. We shall see. Sadly, I could be wrong.
Yes, but that is precisely why they will not face justice. It is too big for most people to believe that is was a scam. Too many believe that covid was this uniquely dangerous disease and would rather continue to believe that is than admit they had been fooled. The worse that will happen to those responsible is that they will have to play with all their newly acquired, ill gotten wealth while not enjoying the world dominating power they dreamed of wielding.
I have yet to meet a bureaucrat who can say, "I was wrong." The fundamental difference between government and the private sector is that in the private sector the objective is to achieve diligence; in government, it is to prove it.
I don't know, peeps. I think everyone's pessimism is reasonable, all things considered.
But I think the truth will become known, and our police State's actions exposed. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but the courts are starting to speak (Whitmer, J6, CDC overreach, ivory tower settlements,...). Next up, the midterms. And parents are wising up to the corrupt education establishment. The Dems OWN that mess. And the Administration seems to think forgiving student debt will win votes. I think they got another think coming!
Today, we have substack, and Twitter is about to blow up in the right direction. Y'all scan/peruse RealClearPolitics, right? The writers on the Left are writing with fear and cya, if not outright mea culpas.
I remember watching High Noon with my dad, and hearing him mutter under his breath, "He's gonna get 'em." I got that same feeling now.
And I didn't even mention Mr. Durham!
Janet Reno was a strange one. I always got the feeling that she genuinely thought children were being abused, but even were that the case, the Federal response/tactics were absurd.
IIRC nobody even thought that at the start of the whole thing. It was a gun investigation and the feds had ample opportunity to arrest Koresh while he was out and about. Once the press started asking hard questions (imagine that!), the government trotted out the 'abused kids' line.
And Ruby Ridge. Shot a mother dead from 100 yards, a gung ho FBI did. I believe she was holding a baby at the time. Sorry no link; If I searched, I'd get sick to my stomach all over again.
There was (or is, I guess) a direct line From Ruby Ridge to Waco. And another from Waco to OKC.
Yes, the FBI issued shoot on sight orders. Most refused to follow them knowing them to be unlawful orders. One criminal followed them, shooting dead a young mother as she was holding her baby. Before then, what alerted the family was their dog barking. The son, a young boy, if I recall correctly, was shot in the back as he ran back towards his home after witnessing his dog get shot. The criminal case against the father that led to the raid was thrown out. The FBI entrapped him. An undercover FBI agent hired him to cut down a firearm’s barrel, which he did, but it was still too long to be in violation of the law they charged him with. Yes, the big wigs in federal law enforcement today were up to no good decades. At least some of their dirty deeds were known at the time and we let them keep their positions and rise to the top of their agencies. What did we expect?
I own that chilling documentary. There's a few things that amaze me when I reflect on that year: First, there wasn't really any alternative media except in a few magazines and AM radio talk shows. Secondly, most of the people I knew at the time saw through the whole charade *without* alternative media. That being said, have people become dumber in 30 years, or has the propaganda gotten better? Maybe both? Because I am quite sure that this whole covid mind effing wouldn't have worked that year, even with corporate media being the main source of news.
People were more critical before the event of the internet precisely because information was more restricted: if there are only a few sources and no realistic way of doing your inquiry, you become more sceptical since it is easier for persons with the right assets to lie to you.
Conversely, there is a depressing logic that if there are many sources and anyone can relatively easily do their own research on an issue or topic, "they" wouldn't dare try to lie since they would be caught out, so no need to check.
And of course if"they" were lying, "someone" would of said "something".
And the confusing of many different titles and publications meaning free press/speech, with actual content and real diversity of opinion: the fewer the owners, the greater the stremlining. After all, sofware can (re)write articles just fine nowadays and since reporting and clicks take clear financial/economic priority over any kind of content, well here we are - capitalist news meaning lowest common denominator buzzwords in every article, texts written by pattern and rote, and don't rock the boat; almost Taylorist or Fordian in how it's produced, really.
Add to that our confusion that if some outlet reports crank stories all day long, all their stories are always crank stories and wrong and vice versa. Every single story must be understood on its own first and foremost - imagine how many people had reported problems with the water in Flint and been fobbed off as hysterics before US national news picked up on it, and all of a sudden it is true and important because Michael Moore is talking about it?
Plus of course our biased minds: if we like the news anchor or reporter on a personal level, we are more likely to believe them.
A dangerous coctail to be sure, and too much a chore for someone working a 50 hour week for minimum wage.
Yes, saw through the charade yet did nothing about it. Thus, we have what we have today.
Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Start there.
My money is on both, in addition to there being so many more purveyors of propaganda and so many telescreens.
No one ever paid for lying about "yellow cake uranium" in Iraq, either.
The sad reality is that the elites won't pay. Fauci won't pay. Just like Hilary probably won't pay.
At least Hillary had to suffer the humiliation of losing to Trump.
She probably went a little (more) crazy that night. Oh, to be a fly on that wall.
The venue she booked for that night had a glass ceiling on purpose. 🤣
She was already drunk, on wine AND power.
Fact!
Waco has always been a travesty. But it was in Waco and was portrayed as crazy people and impacted almost no one except those there.
The Covid disaster has impacted everyone, and cannot be remaindered to the "crazy people" pile I hope. With luck it will be much harder to hide/memory-hole a disaster that has made life worse for most everyone then some religious offshoot in Texas.
All limbs crossed.
It may not have directly impacted anyone other than those that were there that day. But as an event that showed the corruption of the federal government, it had tremendous ripple effects. Just ask the J6 protestors that are still in prison without being charged.
There is little question that the Federal government is fundamentally corrupt. Again, the J6 protestors being in prison is a travesty right up there with Waco. But it is still a relative handful of folks. (That does not excuse it -- I find it utterly reprehensible and against everything in which I believe, especially as murderers are let out with no bail.) The difference with covid, one must hope, is that virtually EVERYONE has been impacted and the number of people with an ax to grind is too large to put in jail or shoot/burn. So I am hoping for a more just outcome. Maybe I am just being Pollyanna, but the numbers are overwhelming if people will hold feet to fire. We shall see. Sadly, I could be wrong.
Yes, but that is precisely why they will not face justice. It is too big for most people to believe that is was a scam. Too many believe that covid was this uniquely dangerous disease and would rather continue to believe that is than admit they had been fooled. The worse that will happen to those responsible is that they will have to play with all their newly acquired, ill gotten wealth while not enjoying the world dominating power they dreamed of wielding.
💯. And *everything* that's been done by these monsters over the years has only served as a spring board for the next "thing".
Waco lead to McVeigh.
Exactly. And the first WTC "bombing", and then the (fill in the blank), and on and on and on...
I tread carefully here. The first WTC bombing was in Feb. 1993--two months before the events in Waco. Do I have that correct?