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As someone who comes from a long line of farmers and ranchers (I'm 4th generation on US soil) I can say that *all* farming used to be organic and it worked just fine. The difference? Monsanto and other evil poison companies came in and began duping farmers into using their products. Farmers fell for the false promise of being able to "do more with less" as long as they bought their seeds, fertilizer and pesticides from these companies and signed on the dotted line. That deal with the devil only ended up taking away their independence and turned them into slaves to said companies. Pretty soon their once fertile soil turned into dead soil unable to grow anything without the "magic" products they agreed to buy. Then add the government into the mix telling farmers what they can and can't grow, shutting down their land and outright telling them they *can't* grow *anything*. Also add that the animals farmers use to create fertilizer (cow poop) are regulated to the point they can't afford to keep the animals, once again, making it impossible to grow decent crops without the company's products. Then add to that, governments shutting off farmer's water. Add to that the fact that when all of our food was grown mostly organically, most people also grew a decent portion of their food themselves at home and this all becomes another incredible case of "unintended?" consequences. Leave it up to government and out of control corporations in bed with that same government to destroy something that worked just fine for literally thousands of years.

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Control the food, you control the people.

Control the energy, you control the continent.

Control the money, control the world.

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Is that original, Oregonian? I'm going to need to steal it.

When I think about how to rebuild economics, I think that no fuel should ever be shipped overseas. It should all belong to the continent because it goes under the whole land mass regardless of where it comes closest to the surface. And so sales and reserves and future planning should all prioritize that population. Plus the danger of spills and the trashing of driveby tankers to countries like Somalia. There should be no imports and exports of the same product.

And how to do that concerns your third point, which is the topic of my book and a major topic of my Substack/YT. You put it so succinctly.

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It sounds like another example of government trying to fix a problem they themselves created and failing.

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I've been having the same conversation, Rob, on other threads. Both can be true: organic, regenerative farming using your own cow-made fertilizer is better AND the militarized march to zero carbon is being used to destroy us. Quoting some great thinker, it's not a food crisis, it's a CONTROL crisis.

As a case in point, regenerative rancher John Roulac was censored for talking about farming. That's a solution that puts people back in CONTROL of their own food and land, and actually reverses airborne carbon, sinking it into the soil where it feeds the life cycle. My book is about economics but it uses the analogy of regenerative ag to say that capital is like carbon--dangerous when ownership is in the clouds but the source of life when sunk into the soil of community.

The homes, the farms, the land, the infrastructure, the skills, the knowledge, the creativity--these are the capital the UN considers wealth, and they all belong to the community that built them, not the bankers and their 'investment vehicles' who never picked up a shovel or a hammer in their lives.

https://www.amazon.com/How-Dismantle-Empire-2020-Vision/dp/1733347607/

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