"In the United States, most of what we say online – even if it’s hate-filled or toxic – is protected by the First Amendment as free speech. But in Germany, law enforcement police the internet for hate speech. 60 Minutes, Sunday."
It's not only Germany, nearly all European governments dig around REALLY OLD social media posts and prosecute people, i mean literally a social media post from 2013 with 8 likes from account that the person had not accessed for a decade was found to be 'hate speech' and prosecuted in the last year.
Someone who LIKED a post in 2018 is possibly facing 3 years in jail, a meme spammer got 2+ years hard jailtime etc, etc (while the actual violent criminals get suspended sentences, if even that)
Absolutely ridiculous, also a reason i am not in any social media in my own name, photo or email (yes i live in EU, unfortunately) , mostly use VPN and hide my location and other details, because if people can be prosecuted about 12 years old social media posts, spamming memes and 7 years old LIKES, who knows what kind of witch hunt comes next.
Most of Europe has been fully captured by the wealthy ruling elite; the Davos crowd. Because most of those nations don't have the same level of liberty and rights we in America do they were easier to coopt and control. For example if they could ban personal firearms or something like it, we'd have been fully captured already b/c they'd have NO FEAR of angering the public regardless of what they do to them. Look at how Aussies were like prisoners and it's b/c they were suckered into giving up fire arm rights 20 years ago.
Right now it's about clean-up, finding ways to imprison/eliminate those who could be potential rebels and trouble makers so their digging thru everything regardless of age or context.
When was the last time we saw anything good coming out of the EU? It’ll be shocking to see the Europe do anything globally positive like send troops to Ukraine as a peacekeeping force and to start protecting their counties on their own
I’ll believe it when I see it. EU leaders remind of spoiled brats who constantly rely on Daddy to be the adult in the room
SC - Over the last few decades, the US has morphed into a police state. Since the end of WW2 the EU has become a fascist police state. Why was there silence and so little applause at that presser? Vance's words run counter to the "silent" mandate - that fact is the model which ALL governments and DAVOS ELITES aspire to - is the CHINESE. Never forget St. George: You have NO RIGHTS, only privileges which can be revoked at ANY TIME and for NO REASON. To fight the good fight, one must learn "their" catechisms Mr Mulder.
The applause was well dried up by the time he got to the Greta/Elon comment when they realized he was saying they don’t have a democracy to secure if they’re blocking some people from participating. What an excellent speech.
Isn't trying to peacefully influence somebody's decision free speech? (Then how do they still have election campaigns "vote for such and such"?) If they specifically ban one type of speech, but you can still distribute pro-abortion leaflets or chant "Orange Man Bad", this is also a violation of non-discrimination laws. Controlling private conversations is yet another issue. And abortion clinics truly became High Temples where it's sacrilegious to question the sacred ritual of Abortion.
The way all the talking points fell together like dominoes this weekend is very strange. To me at least. Am I wrong? Or is a giant game of Twister afoot?
"Oh no, guys! Europe is going to start taking its defense seriously and show they don’t need us at all! Oh no! Anything but that! Please!" No shit. Pull out of it ALL and let them fend for themselves.
As I read your post(s) as well as others exposing the political grift being exposed especially in places like Romania I’m overjoyed by the fact that USAID isn’t able to control the narrative any longer
It's exactly what the world did to free speech during covid...but everyone was okay with that...I swear, there are few who can actually rationally THINK anymore...thank GOD for all you thinking people! xoxox
Eugyppius' is always a good read, but he ups the game in this piece, I feel. Remember that he is inside Germany, and is probably under scrutiny, so he has real skin in the game.
Related, thought this "update" might be entertaining:
I've been looking at Swedish blogs, stacks and forums for topics related to The Speech, and excepting pure woke-left ones (for obvious reasons), opinions among debaters/commenters are about 5/6 all positive and in agreement with Vance's message.
Gives hope it does.
Here's some inspired stuff, by the way:
Funnily enough, our state media chose to go after a Youtuber and start a smear-campaign against him to shut him down at the same time free speech is the hot topic. Here's the spicy stuff:
The guy had gone to his local municipal library and looked at books in the children's section. Homo-, trans- and full-on how-to have sex books on display. He then went and asked the head librarian some questions while filming. She ran and locked herself in her office and called security, who escorted him from the premises.
That's all he did. Now get this: the guy is 16.
He now has the effing /state media/ with their $900 500 000 budget and national 24/7 coverage gunning for him, and he isn't budging. Instead, he put up their interview with him online so people could hear the full unedited version.
Now, some journalists are arguing that's typical right-wing extremism.
I think - I hope - stuff like this is starting to kick off all throughout the Union now. The 'tuber mentioned above has only been doing his thing as fun little pastime for about a year or so, but I hope this gives him "blooded teeth" as we say when someone discovers a passion.
You I'm a free-speech extremist so with that said:
"The enemies of the EU would never make this speech..."
We sure would! Lots and lots of enemies - most I'd say - are inside the EU, not outside. We don't want the EU, we don't need it. The trade union that existed pre-1990s was okay, and is what the EU ought to have remained as. This idea of USE, sans Bill of Rights or constitution or /even an elected ruling council/ is one many more than polls suggest hate.
I'm going to point out a few things about Vance's speech that needs saying I think:
He needs to answer if he is going to deliver the same adress to Saudi, Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, [...] Israel - in situ. (We all know he doesn't have the stones for that, and that no US politician in or near office would ever dare to - real cost in money and influence is too high to uphold any principles.)
He needs to answer a direct question if he defends the right of someone to burn the Koran/Bible/Talmud/phonebook/whatever. That's what the "Swedish" (Iranian ex-pat) free speech activist he mentioned did: he and his friend burned Korans in public. Could you imagine the response from the Trump/Vance voter-base if Vance came out as a defender of burning the Bible? So he won't.
But the EU is safe to poke and pick at. A sternly worded letter is about as harsh a response he'll receive, so all around this was a political masterstroke of his, but don't confuse it with him actually caring all that much about the principles he touted: his nation has never, ever, balked from doing business and backrubs with nations lacking the very notion of free speech in the first place.
Only, they might actually retaliate in a way that is costly to the corporations, so...
All in all, a solid B+ or possibly a- even, but for a full A+*, he needs to repeat this in Riyadh and the Knesset.
JD wasn't talking to the EU leaders but past them directly to the people. And not just in Europe but around the world. This is the straight talk you get from people in Jackson KY. Western culture ties Europe and the U.S. much closer than Saudi Arabia. The people there may not have heard him but the elites sure did and everyone knows, something is going on but not really sure what it is. Yet... Peace Out Rikard
Literally tonight on 60 Minutes:
"In the United States, most of what we say online – even if it’s hate-filled or toxic – is protected by the First Amendment as free speech. But in Germany, law enforcement police the internet for hate speech. 60 Minutes, Sunday."
https://x.com/60Minutes/status/1891284039245402271
Frank Michael Laue says his unit has successfully prosecuted about 750 hate speech cases in Germany over the past four years.
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Also, https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/02/16/keir-starmer-ready-to-put-british-troops-in-ukraine/
Starmer: I am ready and willing to put British troops in Ukraine
It's not only Germany, nearly all European governments dig around REALLY OLD social media posts and prosecute people, i mean literally a social media post from 2013 with 8 likes from account that the person had not accessed for a decade was found to be 'hate speech' and prosecuted in the last year.
Someone who LIKED a post in 2018 is possibly facing 3 years in jail, a meme spammer got 2+ years hard jailtime etc, etc (while the actual violent criminals get suspended sentences, if even that)
Absolutely ridiculous, also a reason i am not in any social media in my own name, photo or email (yes i live in EU, unfortunately) , mostly use VPN and hide my location and other details, because if people can be prosecuted about 12 years old social media posts, spamming memes and 7 years old LIKES, who knows what kind of witch hunt comes next.
Most of Europe has been fully captured by the wealthy ruling elite; the Davos crowd. Because most of those nations don't have the same level of liberty and rights we in America do they were easier to coopt and control. For example if they could ban personal firearms or something like it, we'd have been fully captured already b/c they'd have NO FEAR of angering the public regardless of what they do to them. Look at how Aussies were like prisoners and it's b/c they were suckered into giving up fire arm rights 20 years ago.
Right now it's about clean-up, finding ways to imprison/eliminate those who could be potential rebels and trouble makers so their digging thru everything regardless of age or context.
While I wish war on no man or people, I think a European deployment to Ukraine would have a huge silver lining:
The resulting disaster and popular uprisings would break their censorship mind virus.
Of course, it wouldn't matter much if the nukes were let loose...
When was the last time we saw anything good coming out of the EU? It’ll be shocking to see the Europe do anything globally positive like send troops to Ukraine as a peacekeeping force and to start protecting their counties on their own
I’ll believe it when I see it. EU leaders remind of spoiled brats who constantly rely on Daddy to be the adult in the room
Well, change is all around these days, even "impossibilities".
WWII and its results are finally receding in pertinence and effect.
Shouldn't all nation-states be responsible for there own defense, and *not* dependent on foreign taxpayers for its continued existence?
Today, Russian aggression is a *European* problem.
It's about time, imo.
Nice of Starmer to be willing to send young Christian men to fight a Zionist war in the Ukraine.
KS is like another new Charles I whose trial should go well with a final ceremonial trip to the scaffolding and block again resurrected at Whitehall.
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Similar to that time of royal overreach there is this PM who acts as a god annointed sovereign that jeopardizes the nation and subjects/citizens.
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Brits need to grow a pair and get their ministers in Parliament to arrest KS for treasonous acts.
*facepalm*
A double facepalm is required here, for when a single is not strong enough. 😩 SMDH
Beating ones head on a desk or counter top might cover it 🤔
SC - Over the last few decades, the US has morphed into a police state. Since the end of WW2 the EU has become a fascist police state. Why was there silence and so little applause at that presser? Vance's words run counter to the "silent" mandate - that fact is the model which ALL governments and DAVOS ELITES aspire to - is the CHINESE. Never forget St. George: You have NO RIGHTS, only privileges which can be revoked at ANY TIME and for NO REASON. To fight the good fight, one must learn "their" catechisms Mr Mulder.
The applause was well dried up by the time he got to the Greta/Elon comment when they realized he was saying they don’t have a democracy to secure if they’re blocking some people from participating. What an excellent speech.
Dude, WHERE'S MY MONDAY FIX?! 🤣🤣🤣
Presidents' Day means a short week, which means you get it tomorrow! :)
It wasn't a short week for *me!* I still had to go to work today!
C'mon man. Just one kitten video. Please, I'm jonesing here!
...........ok. A sneak peek.
https://rumble.com/v6m4u20-chase.html
Oh yeah, that's the stuff, man... *contented sigh*
Isn't trying to peacefully influence somebody's decision free speech? (Then how do they still have election campaigns "vote for such and such"?) If they specifically ban one type of speech, but you can still distribute pro-abortion leaflets or chant "Orange Man Bad", this is also a violation of non-discrimination laws. Controlling private conversations is yet another issue. And abortion clinics truly became High Temples where it's sacrilegious to question the sacred ritual of Abortion.
The way all the talking points fell together like dominoes this weekend is very strange. To me at least. Am I wrong? Or is a giant game of Twister afoot?
"Oh no, guys! Europe is going to start taking its defense seriously and show they don’t need us at all! Oh no! Anything but that! Please!" No shit. Pull out of it ALL and let them fend for themselves.
As I read your post(s) as well as others exposing the political grift being exposed especially in places like Romania I’m overjoyed by the fact that USAID isn’t able to control the narrative any longer
I believe we have found our next Reagan.
I am holding a silent vigil against abortion 24/7. Come at me, gov.
"Democrats calling their political opponents Nazis worked so well in 2024, they’re gonna run it back in 2025!"
It's almost as if *projection* is all the *real* National Socialists, er...I mean Democrats, have got.
Sometimes I think that the world is being run by 5 year olds squabbling in a sandbox except that they have weapons instead of plastic shovels.
Germany never learns, does it?
When you only have a giant sledgehammer of force, everything looks like a nail!
It seems that Europe has gone full authoritarian and they don't even realize it.
It's exactly what the world did to free speech during covid...but everyone was okay with that...I swear, there are few who can actually rationally THINK anymore...thank GOD for all you thinking people! xoxox
YES!
Recommended:
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/there-is-no-room-for-firewalls-us
Eugyppius' is always a good read, but he ups the game in this piece, I feel. Remember that he is inside Germany, and is probably under scrutiny, so he has real skin in the game.
He's wrong tho. One of the few times I've disagreed with him.
He's not taking a 30k ft. view. He can only see what's in front of him because he's knee deep in it.
Read my comments i just made at his site if you're interested in my analysis.
Related, thought this "update" might be entertaining:
I've been looking at Swedish blogs, stacks and forums for topics related to The Speech, and excepting pure woke-left ones (for obvious reasons), opinions among debaters/commenters are about 5/6 all positive and in agreement with Vance's message.
Gives hope it does.
Here's some inspired stuff, by the way:
Funnily enough, our state media chose to go after a Youtuber and start a smear-campaign against him to shut him down at the same time free speech is the hot topic. Here's the spicy stuff:
The guy had gone to his local municipal library and looked at books in the children's section. Homo-, trans- and full-on how-to have sex books on display. He then went and asked the head librarian some questions while filming. She ran and locked herself in her office and called security, who escorted him from the premises.
That's all he did. Now get this: the guy is 16.
He now has the effing /state media/ with their $900 500 000 budget and national 24/7 coverage gunning for him, and he isn't budging. Instead, he put up their interview with him online so people could hear the full unedited version.
Now, some journalists are arguing that's typical right-wing extremism.
I think - I hope - stuff like this is starting to kick off all throughout the Union now. The 'tuber mentioned above has only been doing his thing as fun little pastime for about a year or so, but I hope this gives him "blooded teeth" as we say when someone discovers a passion.
"Now, some journalists are arguing that's typical right-wing extremism."
How dare he.......show the world what's happening?
Ditto, but it kind of makes me feel good when that happens because I get nervous when I agree with somebody ALL the time.
*eyes Ryan warily*
I'll i can picture now is that meme with the monkey (?) doing the side-eye
I am! Can't comment there myself though. Paid subs only I'm afraid.
You I'm a free-speech extremist so with that said:
"The enemies of the EU would never make this speech..."
We sure would! Lots and lots of enemies - most I'd say - are inside the EU, not outside. We don't want the EU, we don't need it. The trade union that existed pre-1990s was okay, and is what the EU ought to have remained as. This idea of USE, sans Bill of Rights or constitution or /even an elected ruling council/ is one many more than polls suggest hate.
I'm going to point out a few things about Vance's speech that needs saying I think:
He needs to answer if he is going to deliver the same adress to Saudi, Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, [...] Israel - in situ. (We all know he doesn't have the stones for that, and that no US politician in or near office would ever dare to - real cost in money and influence is too high to uphold any principles.)
He needs to answer a direct question if he defends the right of someone to burn the Koran/Bible/Talmud/phonebook/whatever. That's what the "Swedish" (Iranian ex-pat) free speech activist he mentioned did: he and his friend burned Korans in public. Could you imagine the response from the Trump/Vance voter-base if Vance came out as a defender of burning the Bible? So he won't.
But the EU is safe to poke and pick at. A sternly worded letter is about as harsh a response he'll receive, so all around this was a political masterstroke of his, but don't confuse it with him actually caring all that much about the principles he touted: his nation has never, ever, balked from doing business and backrubs with nations lacking the very notion of free speech in the first place.
Only, they might actually retaliate in a way that is costly to the corporations, so...
All in all, a solid B+ or possibly a- even, but for a full A+*, he needs to repeat this in Riyadh and the Knesset.
JD wasn't talking to the EU leaders but past them directly to the people. And not just in Europe but around the world. This is the straight talk you get from people in Jackson KY. Western culture ties Europe and the U.S. much closer than Saudi Arabia. The people there may not have heard him but the elites sure did and everyone knows, something is going on but not really sure what it is. Yet... Peace Out Rikard
I was thinking more the governments of China and Russia, but you're correct about the regular people!
I used to hate "compare and contrast" assignments in school, but I will issue one anyway.
Compare and contrast the corresponding speech K. Harris might have made in that forum.
Cheers, R.
"Joe, we did it!"