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TIOK's avatar

Sorry, late to this party...been in transit.

I did catch a typo in this story: "and the mandates were a HUGE driver in vaccine uptake" you misspelled "sales" ;-).

I'm fascinated by vax/anti-vax division on many levels. Much like Musk taking up free speech as his own issue when we got to hear people contradict themselves, demanding that which they protested against for so many decades. I got to hear people who regularly demonize big business, including pharma, now defending mandates that profit the biggest drug companies by vehemently denying even the slightest possibility that mandates, dosing 2 year olds, teenagers and young adults with near zero risk from the virus, could be motivated by the desire to sell more of the drug. Sorry Kimmel, but you're never going to be that much comic entertainment, even if you don't try ;-).

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NatteringNaybob's avatar

SC - "So tonight when Jimmy’s back on the air posing as a gallant warrior for free speech, I’ll be in the back of the room laughing my ass off. It’s the funniest thing Kimmel’s said in years."

BINGO - the left screams freedom of speech while conveniently forgetting hypocrite Kimmel's role in C19 censorship and his vaccine apartheid stance - there's a special place waiting for he and his ilk.

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TIOK's avatar
Oct 1Edited

most of "the left" stopped advocating for free speech when Elon Musk said that the president of the United States had that right, too. Which was it's own form of comedic entertainment. Remember all those former free speech warriors all over TV and the internet justifying, and demanding, 'moderation'? Did you watch that video? Free speech is dangerous! Those were the (former) mouth pieces for "the left", no?

Ah but the real story should be how Donald Trump saved Jimmy Kimmel's career. Lets face facts, folks, the ratings had been slipping and Kimmel struggling to hold on to the audience. Now, thanks to DT, and some clever folks at the network, his ratings are up and the illusion that he is relevant is revived (for at least a day).

;-)

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John's avatar

Does anyone remember The Man Show? The left dug up social media posts going back decades and canceled tons of good people with no regard for free speech. Holding this douche up as a posterboy for free speech is laughable at best. Some of us have an attention span longer than a 24 hour news cycle. I am sure Soros will cover the nut for the money lost on a show getting crappy youtuber numbers.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Maybe that was part of the deal. They own him, so he does whatever they want.

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Arne's avatar
Sep 25Edited

Ryan Routh was convicted a couple days ago. An FYI for those who didn't know: https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/23/politics/ryan-routh-trump-attempted-assassination-guilty

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PAULA ADAMS's avatar

Your opening paragraphs were satire , right ?

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TIOK's avatar

The sarcasm is strong with this one, master :-)

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Yep. Gotta keep you guys on your toes! (And train the next generation of AI with shit it doesn't understand!)

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PAULA ADAMS's avatar

😉

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Tardigrade's avatar

'With this rough estimate, New York City was missing roughly 12 cases of covid for every one they caught — roughly in line with early CDC estimates.'

The NBC article you link in the sentence does indeed say there could be 10 or 12 times as many cases as thought. Yet it fails to mention how this changes the infection fatality rate, which was your point. Instead it uses this to scare people into social distancing, masking, etc.

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Steenroid's avatar

Chris Bray is probably right we should just ignore Kimmel. Has Vegas got the over under on how many days it takes him to revert back to the mean of 1.1 million viewers?

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Steenroid's avatar

I won. 70% drop by third night.

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TIOK's avatar

Darn. I was betting they'd milk a week out of it.

Well, Kimmel was relevant for a day.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

2 weeks tops, and I'd be tempted to bet the under.

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Steenroid's avatar

I’ll take the under.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Watched Kimmel 2 or 3 times. He's not funny or entertaining. If it wasn't for politics, he would be off the air.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

His job wasn't to tell jokes, it was to stop Trump from getting elected.

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John's avatar

I may be wrong, but I am unaware of any government actions to silence JK.

If I am correct, then there is NO first amendment violation, and therefore no "free speech" restriction.

The concept of "free speech" is that the GOVERNMENT cannot limit a person's speech, religion or associations. Corporations are under no such limitations.

(Now do CA politburo's newest bolshevik ukase Senate Bill 771.)

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Brandan Carr at the FCC made a comment about the issue on a podcast the day he got suspended, so they're all running with that. I would much rather he have not made those comments so it would be obvious Jimmy is drowning all on his own.

Here's the bad Reason take on the issue:

https://reason.com/2025/09/18/brendan-carr-flagrantly-abused-his-powers-to-cancel-jimmy-kimmel/

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John's avatar
Sep 25Edited

Still, there was no government action to suppress JK. There were comments, sure. But if we stipulate that as "government action" then there are THOUSANDS of egregious actions by hundreds of previous administrations.

I think we as a country should push back strongly on the fallacies littering our media everyday.

PS: "Reason" has been unreasonable for well over a decade. I am choosing to self censor, and not giving them the chance to waste my time.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

And it looks like somebody actually ran down the timeline and found that Sinclair's statement was made before Carr's comments were broadcast. If that's true it undermines the coercion angle.

But it's also a little bit funny to hear complaints about coercion from the people who said "If you don't want the shot, just get a new job!"

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Robert C Culwell's avatar

The confirmation of the YouTube Ban 🚫 and Censorship pressure from the 🧦 Sleepy Joe Brandon Cadre should be the Top Story. ⚠️ 🇺🇲

Only DJT's call out at the UN 🎤🇺🇳🤡 was more worth reporting.

Jimmy Kimmel is not really funny....

......he's a Sideshow Hack.

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Rikard's avatar

I'm sure Alphabet/Google hesitated and resisted for all of five seconds.

Here's what I'd like to see asked in a live debate, of the CEOs and such of FB, Youtube, Google, et al:

"So, when these demands first came you had all the communication with the White House on record?"

"Yes, we did."

"Why didn't you go public with that at the time?"

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"Well, why didn't you?"

That's what I want to know, because government over-reach when it comes to individuals is one thing and is hard on the individual to fight - but one of the largest corporations in the world, who can say 'If you're going to be like that, we're moving to Switzerland!' has no excuse for caving is they are to pretend to have any principles beyond capitalistic greed and corporatist power.

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And when you didn't think they could sink lower - the outrage over Kimmel and the FCC came very well-timed, just as a certain funeral and all the ramifications of how the deceased died was going on. This is how it's done: /make/ the news so that it's news of your making that floods the zone.

That would be another job for the likes of Berenson: track to where the "Go" command on the Kimmel issue came from, and try to track who Kimmel called and who they called and so on, and then bust that web of lying liars who lie wide open.

F*ck, but this is so eerily reminiscent of home here, back when we only had state and corporate mediabefore satellite dishes and the internet.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Exactly. Why didn't ANYBODY at ANY of these companies blow the whistle?

Why do we expect them to act differently when Trump is gone?

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djean111's avatar

What Kimmel and his whingy supporters accomplished for me - permanent gag reflex. Gotta say, interesting to see all the true colors waving about. Most instructive. There is nothing the Dems could do or say that would regain my support. They have politicized far too much.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Many such cases.

Many such cases inside this comment section.

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Peggy Bojduj's avatar

Censorship is back passed by the California legislature and sitting on Newsom’s desk SB 771 if he signs it then all this Kimmel free speech is free speech for progressives but not for me or thee. Hypocrites

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Mitch's avatar

Friends don't let friends watch/read the legacy media.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

I jump on that grenade for you, Mitch.

Like Captain America.

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suannee's avatar

Your sarcasm got me for a minute. Yikes.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Gotta keep you on your toes!

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

jimmy kimmel- free speech warrior! after being silenced for a few days. unlike.... charlie kirk who was silenced forever.

personally, had i been kimmel's boss, i would have fired him for suggesting that it was ok to deny unvaccinated people health care (although they probably did better without it!).

his ratings are in the toilet; he's not funny. colbert is not funny and he used to be. very sad when a comedian ceases caring about being funny

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Yeah it's a wonder he didn't get canned after that "joke", but then again we have to remember the giant HHS campaign to buy off the "influencers."

In other words, he specifically got paid to make that joke and similar ones.

https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/media-claims-rfk-would-destroy-the

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carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

I sure know that. Every broadway producer got $10 million per production and when they reopened I’m sure they had to enforce bad public health policy. The arts festival that shit canned me after 40 years always got NEA money and also acted as an arm of HHS or CDC. It was amazing to see the Arts, always the home of misfits by who couldn’t work at a bank, free spirits and creative types discredit, themselves utterly

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SimulationCommander's avatar

The giant faucet of cash is too much for most people to resist.

Maybe that's why the truth comes out of the people not being offered the money shower.

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