There's a reason the media has been attacking him for 3 years straight, AND a reason they subtly shifted from "Orange Man Bad" to "MAGA Men Bad" -- once DeSantis is the nominee, the "MAGA Men" will be supporting him, thus he will be EVEN MORE dangerous than Trump.
Sorry to interrupt you right there, my friend, but *that* is quite the assumption, in my (even stronger than usual) opinion.
I know many *real* "mega MAGA" types. They *are* for real and as legit as any group of freedom-loving individuals as has ever been realized, and they* will decide who their representatives will be in the Republican Party, which, in my well-read*and*well-witnessed judgment they now control.
* I would say "we," but I want to respect their legitimate skepticism of my anti-State credentials, which, if those on this forum having read me would stretch imagination, might be described by them as moderate!
Nov 10, 2022·edited Nov 10, 2022Liked by SimulationCommander
Oh, that's true, absolutely.
That's funny, M. Sim: I was looking at it from an actual reality of honest voters expressing their God/nature-given rights to express their 2 (two) cents (a favorite description of democracy). I was ignoring the lens of any media, let alone today's twisted and distorted intentional-Plato-caves, as a bitter friend so precisely puts it. That makes *me* the intentionally blind-to-reality fool I love to rail against!!!
I lol the hardest at myself, and so often I have become immune to its effect on my psyche. Really, it makes me feel golden, if that makes any sense; I can take any critcism, and still double down in defense (or offense, like the Democrats. Oh, God, I qualify to be a Democrat!!!!).
Sorry to ramble thoughts-straight-to-keyboard, what's that called...?
Edit: Stream-of-conscienceness, Tim, which leads straight to third-person-referring, and then to various forms of mental illness...
We Learned that margin of victory in Congressional races narrowed significantly. We learned that the power of incumbency is undiminished. We need to recall that all politics is local, and typically Americans hold Congress in contempt, but most like their own representatives.
We learned that Democrats can be defeated - see the Senator in Nevada and Senator Murkowski in Alaska (don't be fooled by the R after her name).
Actually, technically not a contradiction; "you guys' is plural, and considering the extensive global reach of Screaming into the Void, we (note: consistently *plural*, amiright?), or at least one, and probably many, readers/posters/imposters/posers/trolls/various-other-ne'er-do-wells are most certainly in their wine glasses, as we like to say here in the West of France, I mean Marin county, enemy territory, don't you know. (Actually, I'm a Francophile!)
Somewhat surprising but quite true. I really can't quite understand how many still can't see the damage that has been done over these last two years. Illustrates the power of media and propaganda. I had thought the vaccine rejection might be a symptom of public awareness that didn't extend to politics.
Or the rejection of CRT. Or the rejection of monetary inflation. Or the rejection school closures. Or the rejection of using corporations as your Gestapo. Or....
We got some *sound* sleepers, don't we. What a great nation!! And how entertaining to limp jerks. (Not you, M. HardeeHo.)
But Biden? No one supports Biden, nothing *can* help him, and limp-ass is dead wrong.
In a way I was surprised that those points were not really explored by candidates. Many seemed unsure of their principles so perhaps just as well that they lost. It seems like people who state their beliefs and principles did better, but my perspective wasn't really broad.
Well, to those who identify as Republicans: keep writing praise epics for Trump and praying for his resurrection and picking the worst possible candidates you can find in the primaries, and make sure you never let independents forget that you believe women's unique reproductive capacities ought to be in your hands.
I disagree with the importance of woman/fetus issue (I apologize for the archaic language if it offends), but concerning Trump, while I think it important to woo, not disparage, his *huge* number of voters, I offer you some "ammo" from that most-important state of Georgia.
Yup, the Republicans as an organization don’t seem to read the tea leaves very well or just react out of fear of upsetting The Don. Abortion is a dead issue where conservatives have the upper hand already. Despite their rattling, it’s unlikely that the Dems could ever codify the right to abortion and they certainly couldn’t if the Republicans controlled Congress. Maybe they’ll take the DeSantis model of personal freedom and parental sovereignty more seriously now, though it should have been obvious those are the main issues that would mobilize non-leftist voters.
However, it’s complicated because that would mean bucking our corporate overlords, who have hands in both political parties, and Trump, who isn’t exactly clear on his position on those issues (because he’s never exactly clear on any position, as he’s just playing the game). Trump is a huge problem… you got a guy who best case will handily lose the popular vote but can squeeze out an electoral victory. But he’s such a loose cannon, he could sink any contenders with a nickname and if the GOP decides to nominate someone else, it’s likely Trump would run independently and hand the Democrats and whatever zombie they put up an easy victory. The only way out is for Trump to bow out and endorse someone (or die!)
The "upper hand" on abortion is the Constitution. A woman's liberty to determine the appropriate course of a pregnancy ought not be infringed. While I personally support limits once viability has been reached, I don't see any legal right for the state to assert jurisdiction. Most sensible people recognize that the earlier stages of pregnancy are the business solely of the woman.
Voters can make Trump irrelevant. If they haven't the courage and sense to do so, that's not really on Trump. He's the uncontrolled immature damaged human disaster he always was.
"Most sensible people recognize that the earlier stages of pregnancy are the business solely of the woman."
Btw, this group of "sensible people" would include the vast majority of all Republicans (easily found statistics, even in Kansas, of all places!), and one Donald J. Trump.
My point, when we are debating the life of the child, the father has a role in that decision. His burden might be to ensure adequate resources for the gestational period. That assumes a lot about the couple.
I do understand your point but unfortunately, even the father can't be allowed to create for the woman a form of indentured servitude.
Some realities are just brutal and there's no getting around that. No other legal categories are comparable to the circumstances of gestation.
I'm not indifferent to the circumstances of the child, and what I might consider intolerable for myself to contemplate doesn't give me or anyone the right to impose burdens and constraints on a pregnant woman. I myself could support legal restrictions after, say, 16 weeks. But I also see that as a tyranny arbitrarily imposed by those who have no moral, ethical or legal right to do so. We do it to salve ourselves rather than from anything else.
You may be right about abortion and the Constitution, but as we know, interpretation is always theoretical unless clearly delineated (and then we can also debate about what’s “clearly” delineated). My larger point was simply that the Supreme Court has shifted the debate back into the conservatives corner and it’s as good as they’re gonna get. The majority of the population supports abortion within limits so the Republicans aren’t gaining any independent voters by harping on it further.
I’m also not sure that voters can make Trump irrelevant at this point. I mean, obviously they could vote against him en masse during primaries, but the whole thing strikes me as a bell that can’t be unrung for precisely the reason that he’s “uncontrolled, immature, damaged human disaster.” If he wants to run, he will and even if he loses almost all of his Republican base, even 3 to 5% would sink another Republican (see Ross Perot). You’re certainly welcome to be frustrated with the true Trump believers, but they aren’t going anywhere and much like how the left has to cater to the extremists to hold their coalition, the right is in the same boat with Trump. You can never change everyone’s hearts and minds and to my eye, it’s really problems with small extreme minorities on both sides that is causing this issue. You can call that the voters and you’re right strictly speaking, but I think it’s more an issue with the two party system. When everything is reduced to a binary and the country so evenly split, the fringes dictate the policy because the parties need those voters.
I can’t see anything improving (or even not collapsing) until a viable third (fourth, fifth) political party emerges, which I’ve thought for my entire adult life and recent years have only highlighted the urgency. Or the entire political system needs to be dismantled, which won’t come from within and any other option will get quite messy.
Looks like the dastardly uniparty won again. Surprise Surprise. Don't piss on my shoes and call it a red wave.
So, no covid accountability. No Facui in Chains. No pumping the brakes on woke insanity. No renouncement of build back better BS. No energy independence or plan to bring down gas prices. No control over run away inflation or a crashing economy. No rational policy to end the war in Ukraine before nuclear obliteration ... the uniparty is addicted to war after all.
The question is ... was any of that stuff gonna happen if the red tide materialized? That answer probably lies somewhere between Not Really and No F*n Way.
Engage status quo. Kick the clown car into gear and let's drive this sucker over the cliff.
What a CF that was! I just can't believe that Kari Lake and Blake Masters lost. Maricopa county was a big problem in 2020 also. Fetterman legit won? No. Way. Pity votes for someone who was NEVER going to be able to serve as a senator is one of the stupider things I've ever seen. Takes a special kind of stupid to do something that idiotic. How could so many people be that stupid??
The more I watched him, the more bizarre it got! We do have a POTUS like that...except when Fetterman speaks it's usually English. Biden outed the whole plan. "A great lady of the Senate"??? She is rather an odd whatever-she-is.
They voted for Fetterman's wife and ensured Shapiro was elected to appoint her to Fetterman's seat not too long after the resignation for health reasons. This was hardly a secret plan.
Maybe not for Pennsylvanians, but why should a non-voting Californian have known that.
I think Oz, like Kanye and many other persons-of-the-right-who-first-become-popular-for-other-reasons, lost because while his genuine-ness came through, but he was not completely trusted by the frustrated lay-Republican voter to oppose the Left's recent scary power grabs.
So you are implying that Lake lost with only 69% of votes counted ?? In the primaries she pulled over 60K more votes only counting the last 1% while that rich hag she was running against only gained 30K votes counting the last 4%. It ain't over till the votes are all counted.
I grew up in AZ so it was really upsetting. I always work at the polls; I just didn't think! I will fish my hope back out of the trash can and be more patient. Thanks for what you said! I really appreciate it! Kari is amazing and AZ needs her!! The border has always been a problem but not like now.
If you notice the stats in the comment above and compare. Lake jacked those 9 point from Hobbs and Hobbs is standing still. Just like the way the primaries went.
Nov 10, 2022·edited Nov 10, 2022Liked by SimulationCommander
It is so obvious they are doing the same slow-walk on the counting as they did in the primaries. From this morning's edit update, they have only counted an additional 1% of votes ??
Governor 2022 Ariz. General
Updated Nov 9, 2022, 5:46 PM
AP estimates 67% of votes counted
Katie Hobbs D 911,844 votes 50.1%
Kari Lake R 908,157 votes 49.9%
11 hours of counting for only 1% ? C'mon Man !! lol
It seems, if they count another 2% of the votes, .... Lake will be ahead !!
As Hobbs gains approx 9k votes but Lake gains approx 18k votes.. I can't imagine why they would be counting So Slowly. (sarc) they must want to prolong the feeling of impending doom. lmao OR, they are desperately trying to figure out a way to make, forge and inject more Hobbs ballots, ... Without Getting Shafted while doing it, .... but can't get it done because they know they are ALL being watched very closely. In the end, Hobbs will be instructed to concede, .... because like Killary, the LAST thing they want is another audit, now that election auditors have up to date training and experience and WILL find their malfeasance . It might take until Freakin Friday though. lol Maybe even longer if they are only counting 1-2% per day with over 30% of votes remaining to count.
Trump is accused of saying the election in 2020 was stolen, and it may have been, but no independent government investigation was done to determine if it was. Okay, but we do know that Trump won in 2016, but for four years the democrats repeatedly claimed Trump was not a legitimate president. Jimmy Carter in 2016 said that in his view Trump lost the 2016 election and was put in office by the Russians, a claim made repeatedly, especially by Clinton. Biden in 2019 gave his total support to a woman who claimed to be suffering from Trump derangement syndrome, a bad case of it too, and claimed Trump wasn't legitimate, Biden totally agreed. All of it was a lie perpetrated by Clinton and her deep state allies, but nothing came of all that. The mainstream media and the left helped them push the idea that he was an invalid president, therefore deserving of no respect, and some even called for his death, like Robert DeNiro, and Snoop Dogg , just to name two, and I remember Rosy O'donnell wanted to push him off a cliff. Of course it ends with the accusation that Trump told his mega supporters to topple the government, and just forgot to tell them to bring guns, They can negate the legitimacy of his 2016 presidential win and continue to do so, but no one is held accountable, and no one dare question the Biden win. I was so uninterested in our elections this year.
Generally when a candidate is forced out of office because of health issues, their spouse (temporarily) takes over until a new candidate can be appointed.
There have been 47 women to date who have been elected or appointed to fill the vacancies in Congress created by the death of their spouses, according to the Center for American Women and Politics. A look at some examples among the eight women in the U.S. Senate and 39 in the House who have succeed their husbands:
Sounds like a terrible tradition, to me. It really does stink of royal line of succession, and as such should not be occurring in our constitutional, representative republic.
It always takes time for things to shake out. People need to see what really happens with a generation stunted and deformed in every imaginable way and of course some parts of the country will have been much more badly affected than others, and the places with a healthier population are going to begin to dominate the economy.
Corporations are fleeing the northeast and west coasts so a whole new center of gravity will be established. Be interesting to see the next 25 years. [Note to self: take those vitamins!]
We're wired as pack animals, not herds. When the pack gets so big in a relatively confined space that it's forced to behave in herdlike ways to function, something starts to go haywire. Being compressed into cities is useful for some aspects of survival and can offer lots of distractions and entertainments, but allow the growth of malignant boredom.
We're really just designed to work really hard to catch meals, sleep a lot afterwards, and do some pleasurable reproductory recreational activities. Also noting that not everyone in a pack is allowed to reproduce.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/10/nolte-ron-desantis-should-run-president-now/
Hmm...looking for silver lining, I think I found me a pot of gold.
There's a reason the media has been attacking him for 3 years straight, AND a reason they subtly shifted from "Orange Man Bad" to "MAGA Men Bad" -- once DeSantis is the nominee, the "MAGA Men" will be supporting him, thus he will be EVEN MORE dangerous than Trump.
"...the "MAGA Men" will be supporting him..."
Sorry to interrupt you right there, my friend, but *that* is quite the assumption, in my (even stronger than usual) opinion.
I know many *real* "mega MAGA" types. They *are* for real and as legit as any group of freedom-loving individuals as has ever been realized, and they* will decide who their representatives will be in the Republican Party, which, in my well-read*and*well-witnessed judgment they now control.
* I would say "we," but I want to respect their legitimate skepticism of my anti-State credentials, which, if those on this forum having read me would stretch imagination, might be described by them as moderate!
The MAGA Men don't need to actually be supporting DeSantis for the media to proclaim it to be so.
Edit: The media will do this to any candidate, not just DeSantis.
Oh, that's true, absolutely.
That's funny, M. Sim: I was looking at it from an actual reality of honest voters expressing their God/nature-given rights to express their 2 (two) cents (a favorite description of democracy). I was ignoring the lens of any media, let alone today's twisted and distorted intentional-Plato-caves, as a bitter friend so precisely puts it. That makes *me* the intentionally blind-to-reality fool I love to rail against!!!
I lol the hardest at myself, and so often I have become immune to its effect on my psyche. Really, it makes me feel golden, if that makes any sense; I can take any critcism, and still double down in defense (or offense, like the Democrats. Oh, God, I qualify to be a Democrat!!!!).
Sorry to ramble thoughts-straight-to-keyboard, what's that called...?
Edit: Stream-of-conscienceness, Tim, which leads straight to third-person-referring, and then to various forms of mental illness...
Edit edit: Stream-of-conscious, that is.
We Learned that margin of victory in Congressional races narrowed significantly. We learned that the power of incumbency is undiminished. We need to recall that all politics is local, and typically Americans hold Congress in contempt, but most like their own representatives.
We learned that Democrats can be defeated - see the Senator in Nevada and Senator Murkowski in Alaska (don't be fooled by the R after her name).
https://commonsensegovernment.com/the-tytler-cycle-revisited/
Edit: Check out that last (ghostly?) heading, "2008-????".
Aren't you guys always drunk? 😉😊😋
Yes.
Next question.
Actually, technically not a contradiction; "you guys' is plural, and considering the extensive global reach of Screaming into the Void, we (note: consistently *plural*, amiright?), or at least one, and probably many, readers/posters/imposters/posers/trolls/various-other-ne'er-do-wells are most certainly in their wine glasses, as we like to say here in the West of France, I mean Marin county, enemy territory, don't you know. (Actually, I'm a Francophile!)
10 hour recovery time. No, 14 hour. Jeez, time to pour a Manhattan.
No.
Next question.
Lmao. This red wave becoming a red dripple is only gonna garner support for Biden.
Somewhat surprising but quite true. I really can't quite understand how many still can't see the damage that has been done over these last two years. Illustrates the power of media and propaganda. I had thought the vaccine rejection might be a symptom of public awareness that didn't extend to politics.
Or the rejection of CRT. Or the rejection of monetary inflation. Or the rejection school closures. Or the rejection of using corporations as your Gestapo. Or....
We got some *sound* sleepers, don't we. What a great nation!! And how entertaining to limp jerks. (Not you, M. HardeeHo.)
But Biden? No one supports Biden, nothing *can* help him, and limp-ass is dead wrong.
In a way I was surprised that those points were not really explored by candidates. Many seemed unsure of their principles so perhaps just as well that they lost. It seems like people who state their beliefs and principles did better, but my perspective wasn't really broad.
Your ass *is* very funny.
Well, to those who identify as Republicans: keep writing praise epics for Trump and praying for his resurrection and picking the worst possible candidates you can find in the primaries, and make sure you never let independents forget that you believe women's unique reproductive capacities ought to be in your hands.
We sure do thank you for your service.
[edited for word transposition]
I disagree with the importance of woman/fetus issue (I apologize for the archaic language if it offends), but concerning Trump, while I think it important to woo, not disparage, his *huge* number of voters, I offer you some "ammo" from that most-important state of Georgia.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/11/09/georgia-lt-gov-duncan-time-for-republicans-to-put-trump-in-the-rearview-mirror/
https://hollymathnerd.substack.com/p/my-2024-presidential-prediction?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=244892&post_id=83605497&isFreemail=false&utm_medium=email
Omg. (Starts cackling...)
I'm gonna need to corner the market on ginger tea.
Yup, the Republicans as an organization don’t seem to read the tea leaves very well or just react out of fear of upsetting The Don. Abortion is a dead issue where conservatives have the upper hand already. Despite their rattling, it’s unlikely that the Dems could ever codify the right to abortion and they certainly couldn’t if the Republicans controlled Congress. Maybe they’ll take the DeSantis model of personal freedom and parental sovereignty more seriously now, though it should have been obvious those are the main issues that would mobilize non-leftist voters.
However, it’s complicated because that would mean bucking our corporate overlords, who have hands in both political parties, and Trump, who isn’t exactly clear on his position on those issues (because he’s never exactly clear on any position, as he’s just playing the game). Trump is a huge problem… you got a guy who best case will handily lose the popular vote but can squeeze out an electoral victory. But he’s such a loose cannon, he could sink any contenders with a nickname and if the GOP decides to nominate someone else, it’s likely Trump would run independently and hand the Democrats and whatever zombie they put up an easy victory. The only way out is for Trump to bow out and endorse someone (or die!)
The "upper hand" on abortion is the Constitution. A woman's liberty to determine the appropriate course of a pregnancy ought not be infringed. While I personally support limits once viability has been reached, I don't see any legal right for the state to assert jurisdiction. Most sensible people recognize that the earlier stages of pregnancy are the business solely of the woman.
Voters can make Trump irrelevant. If they haven't the courage and sense to do so, that's not really on Trump. He's the uncontrolled immature damaged human disaster he always was.
"Most sensible people recognize that the earlier stages of pregnancy are the business solely of the woman."
Btw, this group of "sensible people" would include the vast majority of all Republicans (easily found statistics, even in Kansas, of all places!), and one Donald J. Trump.
"solely of the woman" and her partner. It was a joint effort, I understand.
One partner contributes gametes. The other does all the heavy lifting.
Gestation is a unique biological function and must be treated as such.
My point, when we are debating the life of the child, the father has a role in that decision. His burden might be to ensure adequate resources for the gestational period. That assumes a lot about the couple.
I do understand your point but unfortunately, even the father can't be allowed to create for the woman a form of indentured servitude.
Some realities are just brutal and there's no getting around that. No other legal categories are comparable to the circumstances of gestation.
I'm not indifferent to the circumstances of the child, and what I might consider intolerable for myself to contemplate doesn't give me or anyone the right to impose burdens and constraints on a pregnant woman. I myself could support legal restrictions after, say, 16 weeks. But I also see that as a tyranny arbitrarily imposed by those who have no moral, ethical or legal right to do so. We do it to salve ourselves rather than from anything else.
Truer words have never been uttered.
And, yes, I considered typing "uddered," but at least my sense of taste lasted a few minutes.
You may be right about abortion and the Constitution, but as we know, interpretation is always theoretical unless clearly delineated (and then we can also debate about what’s “clearly” delineated). My larger point was simply that the Supreme Court has shifted the debate back into the conservatives corner and it’s as good as they’re gonna get. The majority of the population supports abortion within limits so the Republicans aren’t gaining any independent voters by harping on it further.
I’m also not sure that voters can make Trump irrelevant at this point. I mean, obviously they could vote against him en masse during primaries, but the whole thing strikes me as a bell that can’t be unrung for precisely the reason that he’s “uncontrolled, immature, damaged human disaster.” If he wants to run, he will and even if he loses almost all of his Republican base, even 3 to 5% would sink another Republican (see Ross Perot). You’re certainly welcome to be frustrated with the true Trump believers, but they aren’t going anywhere and much like how the left has to cater to the extremists to hold their coalition, the right is in the same boat with Trump. You can never change everyone’s hearts and minds and to my eye, it’s really problems with small extreme minorities on both sides that is causing this issue. You can call that the voters and you’re right strictly speaking, but I think it’s more an issue with the two party system. When everything is reduced to a binary and the country so evenly split, the fringes dictate the policy because the parties need those voters.
I can’t see anything improving (or even not collapsing) until a viable third (fourth, fifth) political party emerges, which I’ve thought for my entire adult life and recent years have only highlighted the urgency. Or the entire political system needs to be dismantled, which won’t come from within and any other option will get quite messy.
Dang.
Signing my name and printing this out. (I'm a boomer. Give me a break.)
I no longer make fun of people for printing out things from the internet.
I have encountered multiple sites in my 'sources' folder that are now just gone. Mostly covid-related.
Oh, and I was just joking, but you ain't kidding!!
Digital is awesome technology, vital to the further progress of mankind, but the bond between the People and the State is preserved on paper.
Well said.
This is an excellent analysis.
Looks like the dastardly uniparty won again. Surprise Surprise. Don't piss on my shoes and call it a red wave.
So, no covid accountability. No Facui in Chains. No pumping the brakes on woke insanity. No renouncement of build back better BS. No energy independence or plan to bring down gas prices. No control over run away inflation or a crashing economy. No rational policy to end the war in Ukraine before nuclear obliteration ... the uniparty is addicted to war after all.
The question is ... was any of that stuff gonna happen if the red tide materialized? That answer probably lies somewhere between Not Really and No F*n Way.
Engage status quo. Kick the clown car into gear and let's drive this sucker over the cliff.
This country is screwed and the vast majority of the electorate can't see it.
There are those that write check$ and there are those that "vote".
Welcome to WEF Amerika...
It's no longer midterm day, so I'm passing out. Catch you guys in the morning for a wrap-up!
What a CF that was! I just can't believe that Kari Lake and Blake Masters lost. Maricopa county was a big problem in 2020 also. Fetterman legit won? No. Way. Pity votes for someone who was NEVER going to be able to serve as a senator is one of the stupider things I've ever seen. Takes a special kind of stupid to do something that idiotic. How could so many people be that stupid??
"Pity votes for someone who was NEVER going to be able to serve as a [POTUS] is one of the stupider things I've ever seen." (brackets mine.)
Edit: I forgot to say, excellent satire if not literally true!!
The more I watched him, the more bizarre it got! We do have a POTUS like that...except when Fetterman speaks it's usually English. Biden outed the whole plan. "A great lady of the Senate"??? She is rather an odd whatever-she-is.
"Danger. Will Robinson! Danger!"
We could sure use Robot right about now.
They voted for Fetterman's wife and ensured Shapiro was elected to appoint her to Fetterman's seat not too long after the resignation for health reasons. This was hardly a secret plan.
Maybe not for Pennsylvanians, but why should a non-voting Californian have known that.
I think Oz, like Kanye and many other persons-of-the-right-who-first-become-popular-for-other-reasons, lost because while his genuine-ness came through, but he was not completely trusted by the frustrated lay-Republican voter to oppose the Left's recent scary power grabs.
So you are implying that Lake lost with only 69% of votes counted ?? In the primaries she pulled over 60K more votes only counting the last 1% while that rich hag she was running against only gained 30K votes counting the last 4%. It ain't over till the votes are all counted.
I'm not seeing AZ called yet, but it certainly doesn't look good from where I'm sitting.
During the primaries Lake was down by approx 9% and came roaring back for the win after poll close.
Lake started off earlier today at being down 19%, .... 59% to 40% now only down by about 2.5% with only 64% of votes counted. As of 2:30am 11/09
I grew up in AZ so it was really upsetting. I always work at the polls; I just didn't think! I will fish my hope back out of the trash can and be more patient. Thanks for what you said! I really appreciate it! Kari is amazing and AZ needs her!! The border has always been a problem but not like now.
Update:
Little by little.
Governor 2022 Ariz. General
Updated Nov 9, 2022, 7:27 AM
AP estimates 66% of votes counted
Katie Hobbs D 902,521 votes 50.3%
Kari Lake R 890,795 votes 49.7%
If you notice the stats in the comment above and compare. Lake jacked those 9 point from Hobbs and Hobbs is standing still. Just like the way the primaries went.
Lake WILL Win !!
I've got all of my fingers and toes crossed!
It is so obvious they are doing the same slow-walk on the counting as they did in the primaries. From this morning's edit update, they have only counted an additional 1% of votes ??
Governor 2022 Ariz. General
Updated Nov 9, 2022, 5:46 PM
AP estimates 67% of votes counted
Katie Hobbs D 911,844 votes 50.1%
Kari Lake R 908,157 votes 49.9%
11 hours of counting for only 1% ? C'mon Man !! lol
It seems, if they count another 2% of the votes, .... Lake will be ahead !!
As Hobbs gains approx 9k votes but Lake gains approx 18k votes.. I can't imagine why they would be counting So Slowly. (sarc) they must want to prolong the feeling of impending doom. lmao OR, they are desperately trying to figure out a way to make, forge and inject more Hobbs ballots, ... Without Getting Shafted while doing it, .... but can't get it done because they know they are ALL being watched very closely. In the end, Hobbs will be instructed to concede, .... because like Killary, the LAST thing they want is another audit, now that election auditors have up to date training and experience and WILL find their malfeasance . It might take until Freakin Friday though. lol Maybe even longer if they are only counting 1-2% per day with over 30% of votes remaining to count.
Trump is accused of saying the election in 2020 was stolen, and it may have been, but no independent government investigation was done to determine if it was. Okay, but we do know that Trump won in 2016, but for four years the democrats repeatedly claimed Trump was not a legitimate president. Jimmy Carter in 2016 said that in his view Trump lost the 2016 election and was put in office by the Russians, a claim made repeatedly, especially by Clinton. Biden in 2019 gave his total support to a woman who claimed to be suffering from Trump derangement syndrome, a bad case of it too, and claimed Trump wasn't legitimate, Biden totally agreed. All of it was a lie perpetrated by Clinton and her deep state allies, but nothing came of all that. The mainstream media and the left helped them push the idea that he was an invalid president, therefore deserving of no respect, and some even called for his death, like Robert DeNiro, and Snoop Dogg , just to name two, and I remember Rosy O'donnell wanted to push him off a cliff. Of course it ends with the accusation that Trump told his mega supporters to topple the government, and just forgot to tell them to bring guns, They can negate the legitimacy of his 2016 presidential win and continue to do so, but no one is held accountable, and no one dare question the Biden win. I was so uninterested in our elections this year.
LOL Pennsylvania elected a guy with a lifespan of 3-6 months.
Enjoy the jab.
His wife will serve despite never getting a vote.
Because Democrats care so much about democracy, you see.
Why will his wife serve? Line of royal succession?
Generally when a candidate is forced out of office because of health issues, their spouse (temporarily) takes over until a new candidate can be appointed.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2014/02/28/debbie-dingell-wives-congress/81539930/
There have been 47 women to date who have been elected or appointed to fill the vacancies in Congress created by the death of their spouses, according to the Center for American Women and Politics. A look at some examples among the eight women in the U.S. Senate and 39 in the House who have succeed their husbands:
Sounds like a terrible tradition, to me. It really does stink of royal line of succession, and as such should not be occurring in our constitutional, representative republic.
My prediction: Critical thinking, and critical thinkers, will be listed as "extinct". Particularly here in Washington state.
Suddenly, it's NOT going to take weeks to count ballots and Fetterman wins in PA.
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1590221278145019907
Now I wish those excellent Libertarians had not dropped out.
I'm going back to my 2-(two)-years-ago state-of-mind: It's going to have to get a lot worse before enough peeps wake up.
Bring on the Greatest Depression. (Oh, what a terrible thing to say and think!)
Yep. People still have it too good. The mantra I often hear is, "the things going on aren't affecting *my* life, so why care?"
Looks like that's going to be the case.
It always takes time for things to shake out. People need to see what really happens with a generation stunted and deformed in every imaginable way and of course some parts of the country will have been much more badly affected than others, and the places with a healthier population are going to begin to dominate the economy.
Corporations are fleeing the northeast and west coasts so a whole new center of gravity will be established. Be interesting to see the next 25 years. [Note to self: take those vitamins!]
Check out the county map, not the state. It's hard to see the blue areas. Yes, the blues have half the population, but still.
the country is bifurcating geographically.
It's city-boy vs. country-man, and it's sickening.
It's the story of civilization. Human nature doesn't change and it always keeps reproducing the same landscapes. Late Roman Empire concurs.
https://commonsensegovernment.com/the-tytler-cycle-revisited/
We need to find an exit from the Tytler cycle at just the right point.
I think he was hyperventilating a little bit.
Everything in life is power and resources.
We're wired as pack animals, not herds. When the pack gets so big in a relatively confined space that it's forced to behave in herdlike ways to function, something starts to go haywire. Being compressed into cities is useful for some aspects of survival and can offer lots of distractions and entertainments, but allow the growth of malignant boredom.
We're really just designed to work really hard to catch meals, sleep a lot afterwards, and do some pleasurable reproductory recreational activities. Also noting that not everyone in a pack is allowed to reproduce.
Oh, Arizona!
I guess Democrat candidates need never debate again.
So tell me once more which party is filled with mind-numbed robots?
Debates are dangerous for democracy, at least when you're also the one in charge of elections.