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Adam's avatar

Why is no one in media (even big name independent media, some of whom are trying to sit on a fence on Epstein and want to be able to condemn the Monster but ignore Dr. Frankenstein's insane hand in creating it) saying that Trump is trying to pull this unsubtle slight of hand not because he is in the files but because Bibi does not want the whole world to have proof that much of what Epstein did that offends and horrifies us all was done at the behest of and to benefit Isreal.

NatteringNaybob's avatar

SC - Simply brilliant missive. Intelligence gathering op's aside, are those Epstein Binders or Epstein Blinders? Perhaps the short but apropros intro below has the answer. Enjoy and keep it up Mr. Mulder. And now a word from our sponsors.. old school Neuralyzer indeed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCedRBOYbQ&t=30s

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Great piece. I appreciate the tidbits you found and highlighted. Epstein could still be a thermo-nuclear truth bomb.

bestuvall's avatar

Hold my pizza...nothing to see here

Gen Chang's avatar

Breaking news: Bongino at odds with DOJ head, Pam Bondi. Word is, either she goes or he will. All over the flack and her terrible handling of the Epstein issues, and lack of disclosure. Apparently, Dan & Kash wanted to release info, but, Bondi blocked.

Angie Dyson's avatar

Never will we know whose Epsteins “friends”, who was involved, where, how and when. They will all be people at the very top and America will just blow up with the extent of who was involved. Those who are evil and corrupt and commit the most heinous crimes are in positions of great power, they are untouchable because hell will have frozen over before we know a thing. The deliberately put themselves in these positions to abuse and exploit young women and girls.

Scuba Cat's avatar

Trump said whatever he needed to say to get "elected" and then turned around and did the opposite of all those things. I feel like I'm trapped in a Scooby-Doo episode, where they yank off the populist mask and it was George W. Bush all along.

NeverForget1776's avatar

No he didn't. He's come thru on some , partially delivered on others and failed completely on still others. No president is ever going to give us %100 of what we wanted or even was promised because things do change and sometimes not because of some intentional deceit or lies on the part of the candidate and jumping the gun and making assumption is foolish. I'm using this as an extreme example to make the point. Imagine that the earth has been visited by and maintains a dialogue with alien life and that has been kept from the public for some reason that is valid. Perhaps the aliens said we will keep a dialogue but only if our existence is kept secret. That's the kind of thing a candidate isn't going to be made aware of until they get into that chair and when they do it may force them to change some of what they planned and promised.

For all we know the cover up Trump is propagating may be for Americas own protection. An excellent argument I've heard iOS that it could be to keep us from a global depression. if enough of the worlds wealthy and powerful are on that list of participants and it got out the negative impacts on the markets could be such that it could bring about a return to the great depression. Whether or not you would agree that is a valid reason for continuing the cover up it would certainly be better than because one or more of Trumps buddies is on that list or that he never planned to release it and just lied.

The way forward is to give them the chance to better explain themselves while also not ever letting up on the pressure on the Trump admin to explain themselves. Only those who need to believe the lie are going to so like with JFK this is not simply going to go away with time. We keep the heat on and never let them forget about it until they either come clean or give a better answer than they have.

SimulationCommander's avatar

YOU GET A JOHN MCCAIN

AND YOU GET A JOHN MCCAIN

Gen Chang's avatar

Another take on the Epstein debacle!

Charlie Kirk, 14 min "advice to the Trump administration" is someone who has Trump's ear, actually talks to him directly, on occasion, hopefully Trump gets the message.

https://salemnewschannel.com/watch/my-advice-for-the-trump-administration-686ffc95fea13f000187c0d3

SimulationCommander's avatar

Trying to remind myself to listen to this over coffee in the AM.

Well, later in the AM.

Gen Chang's avatar

And I thought I was the early bird? 😁👍 5:18 here. Way earlier for you.

SimulationCommander's avatar

I am a notorious night owl. This is one of the reasons the 6 am chaos is so disruptive.

BetterOffRed's avatar

And an outraged Dershowitz wants to be relevant:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Esfvoxrm9g&t=590s&pp=2AHOBJACAQ%3D%3D

Gen Chang's avatar

Hey SC, you might check out this Timcast interview of Lara Logan from this afternoon. Subject: Epstein. Interesting is how I found it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCLeCYolhWE

SimulationCommander's avatar

Ug I couldn't get through Lara's terrible audio.

NeverForget1776's avatar

There's more going here than what is at face value. When I see Patel and Bongino talking about it now I see 2 confused and scared men. In fact they all are acting like their afraid, even Trump just to a lesser extent.

Either their telling the truth and the only adults participating in the sexual exploitation of minors was Jeffrey and Ghislaine which would require us believe the victims imagined having sex with others like Prince Andrew or their lying and doing so in the worst way possible. Neither makes sense. There also could be some word play being employed here which government likes to use to get around actual lying. There is no legal definition for client but there is in certain commercial codes and so by saying their is no client list what they may be saying is there is no list of persons for whom Epstein contracted with while trying to imply it means there were no other participants at all.

I believe there were others involved like Prince Andrew and that there being denied as having existed for the fear of what kind of economic repercussions could come from something like this. If there are enough wealthy/powerful business men involved whom if it came out were engaged in pedophilias could cost the various companies that are invested in and or run to drop in value to the extent that it could cause a great depression like crash then that could be something for which Trump would try and suppress. Not saying it's right or just but at least something that makes sense. Let's say I'm right about this . The confused/shocked looks as well as those of fear from his own team may be due to their now realizing what kind of negative consequence this kind of exposure could causes globally.

Alternatively it could also be that Trump has finally learned just how widespread and pervasive the globalist deep state is and has come to the realization that he isn't in as much control/power as he believed he was and so now he's having to make the truly hard decisions. The global ruling elite class may not have been behinds the attempts to assassinate Trump which is why they failed and b/c the threat of exposing some of their own via this came to light they showed him just how vulnerable he is their power and control and he's backed down. Imagine you are Trump and you believe that you now know how things are and it's just a matter of weeding out the deep state actors only to find that they are reporting a higher more powerful authority, one that has the resources to take out your family and has threaten to do so if you expose those involved with Epstein. If I were Trump in that scenar5io I'd back down to so as to save my family.

Whatever the real reason is I feel %100 confident saying that the answer they are giving is complete and total BS. Epstein absolutely was an asset for 1, likely multiple state actors like Israel, America and the UK and that he was blackmailing the wealthy and powerful to do the bidding of these governments who themselves report to a higher group. The only Q I have is why they are so blatantly lying about it versus applying a better cover? It's almost as if they want the public to not believe them and maybe that is the goal. Maybe Trump is having to bury it and has decided to do it in a way that few will believe so that questions about Epstein persist long after his term is up.

NeverForget1776's avatar

Thanks for sharing I did not see that before. It makes more sense too b/c I noticed at the Patel/Bongino interview that they were NOT behaving the way you would if what they were saying was %100 truthful. Bongino served under a corrupt Democrat admin where as Patel did not so he is probably far more unwilling to tow the line over this than Patel and Bondi would. I can easily see Trump possessing the ring of power, the list of who was involved, and wielding it like a sword to force powerful men to get out of his way so he can push his America 1st agenda through with little to no resistance. I don't believe Trump would cover it up just to protect powerful people but to protect America and or help it. He also could be unaware himself and is believing Bondi and maybe she is the one that the powers that be got to.

Whatever the truth is they have managed it in the worst way they possibly could which is why I don't believe it.

Steenroid's avatar

I still think they aren’t release more info because they loose the ability to blackmail these POS’s if they name them in public.

Ravishing Rudey's avatar

You know what the worst part of living in this hellscape is? It never ends, and you have to keep living. I would rather be dead than choose to live in this world. It wasn't worth living this long. There will *never* be any justice, save the return of The Holy One. We'll all burn like candles, then, for our complicity with all this corruption. It's only like this because of the corruption we tolerate in our hearts.

Vladislav Demenchuk's avatar

If you are willing to go, you might as well do Luigi before then.

Ravishing Rudey's avatar

I have dependents, therefore I must endure to provide for them

Rosemary B's avatar

"At this point, what difference does it make" HR Clinton.

Orca's avatar

These people failed to stop Trump from being elected. But they appear to have succeeded in keeping the files secret. We do not know what's being done behind the scenes and will likely never find out. I'm sure Trump, the great negotiator of our time, has made a deal with them.