No time today, but I do want to post this: Reason is reporting in multiple stories, based on videos taken at the scene, that the police waited somewhere between 40 to 60 minutes to actually enter Robb Elementary, scene of the recent horrific school shooting.
Time was, the man on the spot made the call and no one else. Nowadays it's a whole chain of bucket passing to go through first so the scuzz-buckets called politicians and civil servants can keep their back clear, which is why police et al are made to wait in during such events: they are micromanaged and will be penalised, even fired or charged if acting without explicit orders.
I'm hoping for the day when police and military personnel and officers snap. A people's court for politicians: life doing hard labour (say clearing weeds from railroads or scrapping old engines and reactors and such, manually) or the hemp fandango.
As for gun control - the very phrase is a lie. You can register owners and to prebuy checks and limit ammo and number and types of firearms to your heart's content and it will not make one jot of a difference. Want to know why?
Because the people you do not want to have guns, do not care about neither law nor sense nor reason.
Not trying to start any arguments. I actually agree with many of the things written about here. However, I also value objectivity and multiple points of view.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it" - Aristotle
Update (1630ET): The gunman who massacred 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Texas lingered outside for 12 minutes firing shots at people in a funeral home across the street, before scaling a fence onto school grounds where he fired more shots. He then entered the school and barricading himself in a classroom before opening fire, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Victor Escalon, a regional director for the Texas Department of Public Safety, said he couldn’t say why no one stopped the deceased gunman, 18 year-old Salvador Ramos, from entering the school during that time Tuesday. Most of the shots Ramos fired came during the first several minutes when he entered the school, Mr. Escalon said.
DPS officials previously said an armed school officer confronted Ramos as he arrived at the school. Mr. Escalon said Thursday that information was incorrect and no one encountered Ramos as he arrived at the school. “There was not an officer readily available and armed,” Mr. Escalon said. -WSJ
Further observation on tiny details: why is grandpa like
"Hey, come over during my family tragedy, have a chat, let's take a peek of the crime scene, whoops don't slip on my wifes blood pool"
And absence of bullet holes in the home. He shot an AR-15 in an apartment complex bathroom wall.
How could there not be a bullet hole. Grandfather of Texas school shooter shows inside his blood-soaked home and reveals bullet went through her cheek and exited under her ear - but she's awake and communicating. She even called 911!
30 FBI Agents checked into Mandalay Bay Hotel 1 day before 2017 Las Vegas shooting. Fired more than 1,000 bullets, killing 60 people and wounding 411 with the ensuing panic bringing the number of injured to 867.
May 26, 2022·edited May 26, 2022Liked by SimulationCommander
This makes me nauseous. Literally. I just can't with these bastards. If they won't do the job they were hired to do, then what good are they? I could never get on board with all the bleating about defunding the police, but seriously, if they're there to harass people about mask wearing but not to save lives, then shit, what do we need them for?
They might have also had "more bang for the buck" if they had any teachers who had taken advantage of the program that would have allowed them to carry while in school. Hell, you don't even need to argue that "the teachers don't have any obligation to keep your child safe when they are with them", as shown in many of these instances; just appeal to their selfish natures and make them realize that they are fighting for their own lives too! And to knowingly plan to fight back against lethal force with classroom items and canned food is an example of magical thinking at its best...
How many parents would have also died from gunshots?
I don't excuse the police, but their protocol is to secure the perimeter so that a shooter can't escape. The fish, er, victims inside the barrel, uh, perimeter, are SOL until the police are massed up enough with firepower to go in safely.
Because shooters understand this, they can expect to find unarmed kids and teachers to be easy pickings.
The lone officer that went in without backup disrupted that scenario, and we have him to thank for the carnage not being worse.
Officers are people too, I get it. But you DO take the job knowing that you have to make decisions that may imperil your own life, and that's part of the description.
Act like it still means something. Even if it means getting inside to provide situational awareness for others to more quickly storm the building.
May 26, 2022·edited May 26, 2022Liked by SimulationCommander
The anguished cries of the parents is heart wrenching. I can't believe how many armed officers are standing around doing nothing but turning a deaf ear to the parents' frantic pleas. We are living in the Twilight Zone. It would be hard to believe if you didn't see it with your own eyes. I have a feeling these law enforcement officers are going to be tormented over this for the rest of their lives.
No wonder people get suspicious about these things. At some point, where do you start doubting it's really incompetence.
On a less conspiracy driven note, these videos are the reason anyone talking gun control, even at this moment, isn't going to get very far. "The police will protect you" doesn't inspire much confidence when the police are cowards themselves. They waited for the SWAT team because they didn't want to get shot. Such brave men and women.
Bureaucracy in action, or inaction rather.
Time was, the man on the spot made the call and no one else. Nowadays it's a whole chain of bucket passing to go through first so the scuzz-buckets called politicians and civil servants can keep their back clear, which is why police et al are made to wait in during such events: they are micromanaged and will be penalised, even fired or charged if acting without explicit orders.
I'm hoping for the day when police and military personnel and officers snap. A people's court for politicians: life doing hard labour (say clearing weeds from railroads or scrapping old engines and reactors and such, manually) or the hemp fandango.
As for gun control - the very phrase is a lie. You can register owners and to prebuy checks and limit ammo and number and types of firearms to your heart's content and it will not make one jot of a difference. Want to know why?
Because the people you do not want to have guns, do not care about neither law nor sense nor reason.
Might as well try to control the climate.
I'm just going to leave this here:
https://grahamfactor.substack.com/p/a-brief-note-for-keyboard-warriors?utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2&s=r
Not trying to start any arguments. I actually agree with many of the things written about here. However, I also value objectivity and multiple points of view.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it" - Aristotle
Health & Safety regulations?
The Journal's article is here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/uvalde-residents-voice-frustration-over-shooting-response-11653588161
But they were viciously aggressive with the parents. Cops mission is to protect and serve themselves. They take good pictures of crime scenes.
This was Texas! I thought they were tougher.
Stunning. Can't imagine being detained under those circumstances. Where did those orders come from? Something is rotten in Denmark.
This was in Texas, for God's sake. In California, the police would have entered the school to reload the guy's weapons for him.
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Update (1630ET): The gunman who massacred 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Texas lingered outside for 12 minutes firing shots at people in a funeral home across the street, before scaling a fence onto school grounds where he fired more shots. He then entered the school and barricading himself in a classroom before opening fire, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Victor Escalon, a regional director for the Texas Department of Public Safety, said he couldn’t say why no one stopped the deceased gunman, 18 year-old Salvador Ramos, from entering the school during that time Tuesday. Most of the shots Ramos fired came during the first several minutes when he entered the school, Mr. Escalon said.
DPS officials previously said an armed school officer confronted Ramos as he arrived at the school. Mr. Escalon said Thursday that information was incorrect and no one encountered Ramos as he arrived at the school. “There was not an officer readily available and armed,” Mr. Escalon said. -WSJ
Further observation on tiny details: why is grandpa like
"Hey, come over during my family tragedy, have a chat, let's take a peek of the crime scene, whoops don't slip on my wifes blood pool"
And absence of bullet holes in the home. He shot an AR-15 in an apartment complex bathroom wall.
How could there not be a bullet hole. Grandfather of Texas school shooter shows inside his blood-soaked home and reveals bullet went through her cheek and exited under her ear - but she's awake and communicating. She even called 911!
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Cheek shot with bullet exit, but no hole. Point blank AR-15 shot...
https://mobile.twitter.com/AliBradleyTV/status/1529815619981430786?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1529815619981430786%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.godlikeproductions.com%2Fforum1%2Fmessage5145496%2Fpg1
And back to the expensive truck he crashed. Salvador Ramos, 18, arrived at the school in Uvalde at 11.30am, crashing his car into a ditch.
30 FBI Agents checked into Mandalay Bay Hotel 1 day before 2017 Las Vegas shooting. Fired more than 1,000 bullets, killing 60 people and wounding 411 with the ensuing panic bringing the number of injured to 867.
https://www.governmentslaves.news/30-fbi-agents-checked-into-mandalay-bay-hotel-1-2-days-before-vegas-shooting/
Just another example, one of the many. Why should we be surprised about it?
I wish there would be something more than empty demagoguery and endless generalizations, like in the majority of substacks...
This makes me nauseous. Literally. I just can't with these bastards. If they won't do the job they were hired to do, then what good are they? I could never get on board with all the bleating about defunding the police, but seriously, if they're there to harass people about mask wearing but not to save lives, then shit, what do we need them for?
They might have also had "more bang for the buck" if they had any teachers who had taken advantage of the program that would have allowed them to carry while in school. Hell, you don't even need to argue that "the teachers don't have any obligation to keep your child safe when they are with them", as shown in many of these instances; just appeal to their selfish natures and make them realize that they are fighting for their own lives too! And to knowingly plan to fight back against lethal force with classroom items and canned food is an example of magical thinking at its best...
How many parents would have also died from gunshots?
I don't excuse the police, but their protocol is to secure the perimeter so that a shooter can't escape. The fish, er, victims inside the barrel, uh, perimeter, are SOL until the police are massed up enough with firepower to go in safely.
Because shooters understand this, they can expect to find unarmed kids and teachers to be easy pickings.
The lone officer that went in without backup disrupted that scenario, and we have him to thank for the carnage not being worse.
Officers are people too, I get it. But you DO take the job knowing that you have to make decisions that may imperil your own life, and that's part of the description.
Act like it still means something. Even if it means getting inside to provide situational awareness for others to more quickly storm the building.
Naturally it's all the fault of the Republicans, because now the left suddenly cares about children again. Convenient.
The anguished cries of the parents is heart wrenching. I can't believe how many armed officers are standing around doing nothing but turning a deaf ear to the parents' frantic pleas. We are living in the Twilight Zone. It would be hard to believe if you didn't see it with your own eyes. I have a feeling these law enforcement officers are going to be tormented over this for the rest of their lives.
No wonder people get suspicious about these things. At some point, where do you start doubting it's really incompetence.
On a less conspiracy driven note, these videos are the reason anyone talking gun control, even at this moment, isn't going to get very far. "The police will protect you" doesn't inspire much confidence when the police are cowards themselves. They waited for the SWAT team because they didn't want to get shot. Such brave men and women.