There's nothing worse than hearing one of these politicians (or their mouthpieces in the so-called mainstream media) say, "We need more bipartisanship". When you hear that phrase, hang on to your hats, it *always* means they're about to do something horrible.
There was at least 1 rep. in the linked debate who opposed the bill (Chip Roy), but in the main debate, last night, it looks like no one spoke in opposition.
The one that depressed me the most in this whole thing was Thomas Massie. Normally, I think he's pretty honest, and he may still well be, but he was also as dumb as the rest. He let it out of the rules committee because he said, "For once we got something for raising the debt ceiling." Well, Mr. Massie, here's what's wrong with that thinking. You're *always* supposed to "get something" for raising the debt ceiling. That "something" is supposed to be a re-evaluation of how much you're spending and on what. It's supposed to force a reckoning, not a bipartisan rolling of the taxpayer.
Rand Paul may be the only Senator capable of independent thought. That must be why his attempt to run for POTUS in 2016 was doomed. The Uniparty has no understanding or interest in those who pay their exorbitant salaries and ridiculous retirement benefits. They have spent the USA into insolvency and the only question is whether Saudi Arabia, Russia, or China will control the world in the 21st century.
The antics of the RINOs and the Dems are reminiscent of the old 3 Stooges' movies. Just as the USA now stands for nothing but warfare and internecine battles, the most important thing is eternal warfare and conflict. My contrarian comment is GO PUTIN!!!!! Destroy the Nazis in Kiev and Washington, DC.
SC - Gridlock by design. They stall, nothing ever gets done, status quo, you lose, they win. Our whores on the hill have learned well from the masters... Since the end of World War II in 1945, Italy has had 69 governments, at an average of one every 1.11 years. Machiavelli is smiling.
Well, Ron was mostly right. It’s the neocons who want to spend more on war, and they’re found in abundance in “both” parties (to the extent that you can believe that there’s any actual distinction).
Yeah the neocons shifted to the Ds during the Trump years. (Running the show today is the Obama gang with more neocons!)
I said before the election that mainstream democrats haven't yet realized they're the party of endless war, endless printing, media censorship, "lockdown" corporations such as WalMart/Amazon, and the intelligence agencies -- but they're slowly coming around.
SCOTUS approved 9-0 that FBI et. al. can look at our bank records even if it's to investigate someone else. Basically, Biden & Co. have taken away any right to privacy we had.
At least the voting-figures are easy to find in the US.
Here, trying to find how an MP voted is nigh-on impossible, despite the information being public. The "dance-steps" you have to follow through the State's homepage are (I suspect) made purposefully complicated and impractical.
Anyway, despite having 8 parties in parliament they vote the same 90%+ of the time. In most issues, people do not agree with how the parties vote (if people understand the issue at all, most don't since they only know what's in the state/regime media).
The question to put to all politicians (I'd rather put /them/ to the question...) is:
If you believe in and endorse democracy - rule of the people - why do you not support rule by plebiscite?
When they want to keep the votes hidden, they have a few tricks they can pull -- a "voice vote" being one of them. These people are proud of this vote, and that says a lot.
When a two-year old has filled the potty without help getting on it, it's ok to be proud over a pile of shit.
Septuagenarian life-long politicians, not.
Once, we had anonymous voting in parliament. Before the 1950s, if the residing governement lost a vote in parliament, it had to resign.
Another "fun" fact: the number of civil servants, all kinds and levels, increased over 20 times from 1905 to 1980. The number of people employed by the state/local councils to actually do any work multiplied by 6 during that same time.
If you make an org chart of any western european nation's civil service or eq. it looks like a thumb-tack standing on its tip. I'm sure it's the same in the US.
As I said, government, and government lite™. And it makes sense, what kind of politician goes into government and retains that intention of dismantling government?
Indeed. I wish I had been paying attention when he ran.
I was listening to RFK Jr. last night on a Dr. Drew podcast, and although he has good ideas, I still don't hear enough about what s he wants to take apart. And listen, if there is anyone who should have a vendetta against government overreach, it is a Kennedy.
He's been pretty open stating that he holds CIA complicit in death of his father and uncle; he may be staying mum on any specific plan to rein them in however.
And the Lobbies show their appreciation for a job well done with $$$ donations to the representatives re election campaigns…. This is really getting old.
I have yet to figure out, other than the complicity of lying media, how "only a modest increase" is able to be considered a "cut". If ever there is an actual honest reduction in a Federal budget, I'll be watching the skies for pigs, and Hell's schools will be having their first ever snow day.
CONgress pretty much hates all Americans, doesn't it? If it was up to me, I'd clear out every last lobbyist. Then I'd audit every single congress critter yearly. They shouldn't be able to get as rich as Nancy Piglosi. While we're at it, I want a unicorn, too.
I’m excited to share the good news that just as I promised the J6 tapes are being released!
@SpeakerMcCarthy has given @jsolomonReports, @Julie_kelly2, and a third outlet unfettered access to the J6 tapes, and their reporting on it starts tomorrow.
This is the transparency the American people deserve and I look forward to their reporting!
Same trick as with Tucker. The corporate press will now attack the messengers and ignore the revelations that come from Kelly, Solomon and whoever that third outlet is. Why, all of those reporters are ALREADY insurrection-deniers!
Those who have been fooled will remain so. Nothing will change.
Team Red = Nationalists; Team Blue = Socialists.
Nationalist + Socialist = ....
There's nothing worse than hearing one of these politicians (or their mouthpieces in the so-called mainstream media) say, "We need more bipartisanship". When you hear that phrase, hang on to your hats, it *always* means they're about to do something horrible.
You mean Hang on to your Wallet
Where's the Constitutional Political Party?
≈1% in the polls? :)
Here's some of the debate: https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/volume-169/issue-93/house-section/article/H2671-3
There was at least 1 rep. in the linked debate who opposed the bill (Chip Roy), but in the main debate, last night, it looks like no one spoke in opposition.
The one that depressed me the most in this whole thing was Thomas Massie. Normally, I think he's pretty honest, and he may still well be, but he was also as dumb as the rest. He let it out of the rules committee because he said, "For once we got something for raising the debt ceiling." Well, Mr. Massie, here's what's wrong with that thinking. You're *always* supposed to "get something" for raising the debt ceiling. That "something" is supposed to be a re-evaluation of how much you're spending and on what. It's supposed to force a reckoning, not a bipartisan rolling of the taxpayer.
Yeah I saw a dumb comment from him on Twitter and was very surprised.
"Fucked" is what you got, Tom.
Rand Paul may be the only Senator capable of independent thought. That must be why his attempt to run for POTUS in 2016 was doomed. The Uniparty has no understanding or interest in those who pay their exorbitant salaries and ridiculous retirement benefits. They have spent the USA into insolvency and the only question is whether Saudi Arabia, Russia, or China will control the world in the 21st century.
Oh, Saudi Arabia, now that's an interesting, um, option.
The world is like a giant poker game. Whoever ends up with the most money is the winner.
Compulsory contrarian comment:
The goal of the game is to keep the game going and staying on top. That's winning in the game of power, politics and pecuniary matters.
The antics of the RINOs and the Dems are reminiscent of the old 3 Stooges' movies. Just as the USA now stands for nothing but warfare and internecine battles, the most important thing is eternal warfare and conflict. My contrarian comment is GO PUTIN!!!!! Destroy the Nazis in Kiev and Washington, DC.
And you'll never win as long as one guy has access to the chip printer..........
And the Saudis can hide a lot of aces under those robes. (I'm sorry. I just couldn't resist. Your point is still well made.)
SC - Gridlock by design. They stall, nothing ever gets done, status quo, you lose, they win. Our whores on the hill have learned well from the masters... Since the end of World War II in 1945, Italy has had 69 governments, at an average of one every 1.11 years. Machiavelli is smiling.
Well, Ron was mostly right. It’s the neocons who want to spend more on war, and they’re found in abundance in “both” parties (to the extent that you can believe that there’s any actual distinction).
Yeah the neocons shifted to the Ds during the Trump years. (Running the show today is the Obama gang with more neocons!)
I said before the election that mainstream democrats haven't yet realized they're the party of endless war, endless printing, media censorship, "lockdown" corporations such as WalMart/Amazon, and the intelligence agencies -- but they're slowly coming around.
SCOTUS approved 9-0 that FBI et. al. can look at our bank records even if it's to investigate someone else. Basically, Biden & Co. have taken away any right to privacy we had.
"Government investigates government and determines government innocent."
At least the voting-figures are easy to find in the US.
Here, trying to find how an MP voted is nigh-on impossible, despite the information being public. The "dance-steps" you have to follow through the State's homepage are (I suspect) made purposefully complicated and impractical.
Anyway, despite having 8 parties in parliament they vote the same 90%+ of the time. In most issues, people do not agree with how the parties vote (if people understand the issue at all, most don't since they only know what's in the state/regime media).
The question to put to all politicians (I'd rather put /them/ to the question...) is:
If you believe in and endorse democracy - rule of the people - why do you not support rule by plebiscite?
When they want to keep the votes hidden, they have a few tricks they can pull -- a "voice vote" being one of them. These people are proud of this vote, and that says a lot.
When a two-year old has filled the potty without help getting on it, it's ok to be proud over a pile of shit.
Septuagenarian life-long politicians, not.
Once, we had anonymous voting in parliament. Before the 1950s, if the residing governement lost a vote in parliament, it had to resign.
Another "fun" fact: the number of civil servants, all kinds and levels, increased over 20 times from 1905 to 1980. The number of people employed by the state/local councils to actually do any work multiplied by 6 during that same time.
If you make an org chart of any western european nation's civil service or eq. it looks like a thumb-tack standing on its tip. I'm sure it's the same in the US.
And we the people(s) are under the thumb(tack)...
They do not fear us, and quite frankly I can see why.
As I said, government, and government lite™. And it makes sense, what kind of politician goes into government and retains that intention of dismantling government?
RON PAUL 2024!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Indeed. I wish I had been paying attention when he ran.
I was listening to RFK Jr. last night on a Dr. Drew podcast, and although he has good ideas, I still don't hear enough about what s he wants to take apart. And listen, if there is anyone who should have a vendetta against government overreach, it is a Kennedy.
Until yesterday, I was a vocal supporter of RFK, Jr. And then I read his comments about how the USA must continue to support the Nazis in Ukraine.
#PAUL2024
I think he has plans for the CIA and FBI.
Maybe he's afraid to speak on that this early, because of drawing true fire. 💣💥
He's been pretty open stating that he holds CIA complicit in death of his father and uncle; he may be staying mum on any specific plan to rein them in however.
And they all congratulate each other for putting us all more in debt.
"We came together to make the difficult decision to continue kicking the can down the road. You're welcome!"
And the Lobbies show their appreciation for a job well done with $$$ donations to the representatives re election campaigns…. This is really getting old.
Yet, next cycle we'll all vote for 'change' by which we mean re-electing the incumbents.
Welcome to the suspense hotline:
Please hold for last years response...
But but but it's the biggest spending cut in history...🙄
(after we made up an emergency and totally raised the spending bar)
He is such a swamp creature.
I have yet to figure out, other than the complicity of lying media, how "only a modest increase" is able to be considered a "cut". If ever there is an actual honest reduction in a Federal budget, I'll be watching the skies for pigs, and Hell's schools will be having their first ever snow day.
That's such a dumb talking point it might have come out of the mouth of KJP.
🙌
CONgress pretty much hates all Americans, doesn't it? If it was up to me, I'd clear out every last lobbyist. Then I'd audit every single congress critter yearly. They shouldn't be able to get as rich as Nancy Piglosi. While we're at it, I want a unicorn, too.
"CONgress pretty much hates all Americans, doesn't it?"
The public is the enemy of the government. They realize it; most of us do not.
I’m so done with these bastards!
Yeah, GOP control of the House doesn't much matter when 3/4 of them are playing for the Uniparty -- including the team captain.
But they sure try and talk a good game…lookin’ at you MTG! 👀🤬
Is her transition to the UniParty complete?
Marjorie Taylor Gnome
Did you see the latest distraction from this vote?
MTG GOT THE 1/6 TAPES RELEASED!!!!
But not to the public, to a few reporters. (One of whom is Julie Kelly, which is good, but this is not public release)
Edit: the link
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1663972434834235393
I’m excited to share the good news that just as I promised the J6 tapes are being released!
@SpeakerMcCarthy has given @jsolomonReports, @Julie_kelly2, and a third outlet unfettered access to the J6 tapes, and their reporting on it starts tomorrow.
This is the transparency the American people deserve and I look forward to their reporting!
Same trick as with Tucker. The corporate press will now attack the messengers and ignore the revelations that come from Kelly, Solomon and whoever that third outlet is. Why, all of those reporters are ALREADY insurrection-deniers!
Those who have been fooled will remain so. Nothing will change.
yes, I heard this on WMAL (at 4 driving home from my dad)
I want to be hopeful but I think this is a distraction.
these people, all of them, are absolute criminals. I feel sad and sorry for the future of our country.
Deflection! Wag the dog!
Oh look - a squirrel!!
Won't work! We have eyes!