Have DeSantis' backers withdraw funding, so he has to drop out, making it a two horse race. Let Trump rack up delegates, and let Haley finish a distant second.
Then, watch as Democrats jail Trump on the spurious charges currently pending.
Then the RNC, a private entity, declares Trump, as a convicted criminal, ineligible for the nomination. With heavy hearts, they solemnly give the nomination to the candidate with the second most delegates.
And Voila... MAGA gets neither Trump nor the erstwhile heir apparent, DeSantis.
That is a horrendous but possible scenario. It was very suspicious when, despite DeSantis' second-place finish in Iowa, the Republican party began calling it a "two-person race" between Donald Trump and Hideous Haley. New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu was the major cheerleader in this falsehood. Is he his father John Sunnu's (White House chief of staff under George H.W. Bush) mouthpiece in this scam?
(The New Hampshire primary is today, January 23, 2024.)
more evidence imo that this is ALSO a rigged thing. It's not a DeSantis mistake. Just as whateverhisnamewas decided to drop his Dem candidacy after supposedly "winning" in Iowa in 2020. I heard he got a phone call while on the plane to the next campaign stop and turned the plane around. Who makes these phone calls??? The cabal. Why does anyone on earth still participate in this theater?
In my dream, Joe Manchin's 3rd Party wins. I've been a Trump fan since he rode down that escalator; but his incessant name-calling has become off-putting (e.g. using Nikki's Indian name) and his rage, while reasonable, is off-putting. Maybe 2024 will finally be the year Americans cast off the yoke of a corrupt two-party system.
I don't get that. So many people say they are upset with Trump epithets, but he and his supporters have been the subject of incessant hate speech for eight solid years. It's been said that Trump doesn't play defense, he counter attacks. I respect that. People should have been doing that to progressives for the last century. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had.
We have been arguing about cultish behavior by members of the Uniparty since the CIA took over the nation in November of 1963. We are given a choice of 'progressives' or 'stupids". The CIA has cleverly got us at each other's throats so that we don't see the chaos they are causing in the world.
I think I get your points but let's be clear that someone who is of the "progressive" variety is also "stupid". And while I am at it, it is only honest to say that individuals are responsible for how and what they think and do, not the CIA.
It's well recognized that the CIA has been central to 'nation building' in other countries. That consists of rigging systems so that the people that the CIA wants in power get that power, and keep it. Now, they're doing it here within our borders. That's TREASON.
"Now, they're doing it here within our borders. That's TREASON."
That's life as a human. How are we (free thinking individuals) going to deal with it is the question at hand. Certainly, we cannot think that the government is going to set itself straight. The CIA will not one day decide to admit to its efforts to covertly run the U.S. of A. regardless of citizen concerns. The DOJ will not one day decide to actually do its legal job and enforce the laws equally amongst the law breakers.
Even if Trump is the next president, the CIA and DOJ will continue to do what they have been doing - acting against the U.S. constitution and the citizens of the U.S. I hope Trump has been using the past three years and 2024 to figure out a way to eliminate both of these agencies and replace with something manageable and transparent to the citizens.
I recall Trump dreaming aloud about moving some agencies away from D.C. and out to where the people live. If the FBI was not drowning in the bureaucracy and criminality of Washington, DC it might actually heal itself in a decade. But it would be better just to shut the thing down.
Fine with Trump, DeSantis, Ramaswamy; Haley not so much. Problem I have is that most drop out after 1/50 states? Basically less than 1% of the US population, 3.2 MM out of 335 will really get to have any say in this. Also pretty easy to influence the results either way with such a small sample size of the country.
Dun it again SC...toss out a line like this and couple few hours later, an interesting torrent of back and forth. I even managed to get my, from scratch, 'dirty-rice' going on the range while reading the flow. It's why we're here.
I was surprised he dropped out. While he didn't beat Trump in Iowa, he definitely beat Haley, and that was something of an upset. I wanted him to keep going, just because it shouldn't be that easy (your point about Haley being a default second now makes me even more wary).
If I get really cynical and end up going down a tinfoil lined rabbit hole, I thin this whole thing is a setup to do something to permanently hamper any sort of populist movement rising again.
Exactly what I'm afraid of! We don't need a RINO president, heavy on the dumbocrap crap, any more than we need FJB! or any other piece of dumbocrap crap.
If we could get enough money together, maybe we could convince( buy ) the governor of Hawaii to say that the new President of Argentina was ALSO actually born in Honolulu .... and make him the nominee .
Now, there's an idea I can get behind! What's another foreigner as president, as long as he/she is actually for helping the country instead of starting race wars or real wars around the world.
Here's the uniparty plan.
Have DeSantis' backers withdraw funding, so he has to drop out, making it a two horse race. Let Trump rack up delegates, and let Haley finish a distant second.
Then, watch as Democrats jail Trump on the spurious charges currently pending.
Then the RNC, a private entity, declares Trump, as a convicted criminal, ineligible for the nomination. With heavy hearts, they solemnly give the nomination to the candidate with the second most delegates.
And Voila... MAGA gets neither Trump nor the erstwhile heir apparent, DeSantis.
That is a horrendous but possible scenario. It was very suspicious when, despite DeSantis' second-place finish in Iowa, the Republican party began calling it a "two-person race" between Donald Trump and Hideous Haley. New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu was the major cheerleader in this falsehood. Is he his father John Sunnu's (White House chief of staff under George H.W. Bush) mouthpiece in this scam?
(The New Hampshire primary is today, January 23, 2024.)
Something exactly like that. And since the RNC is a private entity, there's nothing we could do about it.
Except WRITE-IN Donald Trump when voting for President if he is not on the ballot.
more evidence imo that this is ALSO a rigged thing. It's not a DeSantis mistake. Just as whateverhisnamewas decided to drop his Dem candidacy after supposedly "winning" in Iowa in 2020. I heard he got a phone call while on the plane to the next campaign stop and turned the plane around. Who makes these phone calls??? The cabal. Why does anyone on earth still participate in this theater?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/buttigieg-exits-presidential-race-after-claiming-iowa-win
"Buttigieg had been scheduled to headline a rally in Dallas on Sunday night. The charter plane was rerouted."
I like DeSantis but he can do more good right now as governor of Florida.
Dog and pony show.
Smoke and mirrors
It was probably set up that way from the beginning.
No way Haley takes second, Ramaswamy has been making alot of noise playing at younger angry Trump. My guess is Vivek gets 2nd.
He's already suspended his campaign.
I missed that, thanks SC
i was just saying that i wished he had waiting until after NH to dilute whatever vote Haley might get
Hmmm... in that scenario RFK wins
In my dream, Joe Manchin's 3rd Party wins. I've been a Trump fan since he rode down that escalator; but his incessant name-calling has become off-putting (e.g. using Nikki's Indian name) and his rage, while reasonable, is off-putting. Maybe 2024 will finally be the year Americans cast off the yoke of a corrupt two-party system.
Dreams are for dreamers. We need a doer of positive things (for the country and its citizens) and that is, like his style or not, Trump.
IMHO, permanent political parties should be outlawed.
I don't get that. So many people say they are upset with Trump epithets, but he and his supporters have been the subject of incessant hate speech for eight solid years. It's been said that Trump doesn't play defense, he counter attacks. I respect that. People should have been doing that to progressives for the last century. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had.
We have been arguing about cultish behavior by members of the Uniparty since the CIA took over the nation in November of 1963. We are given a choice of 'progressives' or 'stupids". The CIA has cleverly got us at each other's throats so that we don't see the chaos they are causing in the world.
I think I get your points but let's be clear that someone who is of the "progressive" variety is also "stupid". And while I am at it, it is only honest to say that individuals are responsible for how and what they think and do, not the CIA.
It's well recognized that the CIA has been central to 'nation building' in other countries. That consists of rigging systems so that the people that the CIA wants in power get that power, and keep it. Now, they're doing it here within our borders. That's TREASON.
"Now, they're doing it here within our borders. That's TREASON."
That's life as a human. How are we (free thinking individuals) going to deal with it is the question at hand. Certainly, we cannot think that the government is going to set itself straight. The CIA will not one day decide to admit to its efforts to covertly run the U.S. of A. regardless of citizen concerns. The DOJ will not one day decide to actually do its legal job and enforce the laws equally amongst the law breakers.
Even if Trump is the next president, the CIA and DOJ will continue to do what they have been doing - acting against the U.S. constitution and the citizens of the U.S. I hope Trump has been using the past three years and 2024 to figure out a way to eliminate both of these agencies and replace with something manageable and transparent to the citizens.
I recall Trump dreaming aloud about moving some agencies away from D.C. and out to where the people live. If the FBI was not drowning in the bureaucracy and criminality of Washington, DC it might actually heal itself in a decade. But it would be better just to shut the thing down.
Fine with Trump, DeSantis, Ramaswamy; Haley not so much. Problem I have is that most drop out after 1/50 states? Basically less than 1% of the US population, 3.2 MM out of 335 will really get to have any say in this. Also pretty easy to influence the results either way with such a small sample size of the country.
Grumpy kitty! 😢😭😢😭💔
Maybe he and Trump made a deal! Desantis throws support to Trump now in exchange for Trump supporting DeSantis if he is throw off the ballot for good.
Dun it again SC...toss out a line like this and couple few hours later, an interesting torrent of back and forth. I even managed to get my, from scratch, 'dirty-rice' going on the range while reading the flow. It's why we're here.
I was surprised he dropped out. While he didn't beat Trump in Iowa, he definitely beat Haley, and that was something of an upset. I wanted him to keep going, just because it shouldn't be that easy (your point about Haley being a default second now makes me even more wary).
If I get really cynical and end up going down a tinfoil lined rabbit hole, I thin this whole thing is a setup to do something to permanently hamper any sort of populist movement rising again.
Yup. I agree
Exactly what I'm afraid of! We don't need a RINO president, heavy on the dumbocrap crap, any more than we need FJB! or any other piece of dumbocrap crap.
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I mostly agree with you.
If we could get enough money together, maybe we could convince( buy ) the governor of Hawaii to say that the new President of Argentina was ALSO actually born in Honolulu .... and make him the nominee .
I mean, it's worked once.
Now, there's an idea I can get behind! What's another foreigner as president, as long as he/she is actually for helping the country instead of starting race wars or real wars around the world.