Every clear day on my way to work I get a good view st Hellen’s, and hood. Im a Chicago native, my love for growing things brought me to the west coast. I thought I was a nature person before coming here, but truthfully the mountain landscape out here might be the prettiest thing I’ve ever seen. The cascade range is breathtaking im not sure that anything compares to it, at least in the United States. Since I’ve come here there has been a lot of unnecessary fires blamed on global warming of course. I really hope we can stop these people before it’s to late. I for one can’t sit back and watch anyone who believes they are special enough to cause the kind of destruction these small minded rich shit bags are causing. I can’t fathom why anyone would want to destroy something so amazing. I really hope they choke on there entitlement one day.
I’ve been on ranier and stevens, I haven’t had the opportunity to explore hood or st Hellen’s yet. I do a lot of fishing, and I have a love for mycology so I adventure when I can. I’ve been thinking alot about going mushrooms hunting near St. Helens then I saw that post. I really need to get up there, I’m sure it’s amazing. So far this area has yet to disappoint me. The size of the trees out here alone blows my mind every day!
It's a bit late in the year this year, but if you hit up St. Helens between late spring or late summer, it's a gorgeous trip. (Don't want to run into fog up there)
Some volcanos are under water, not the atmosphere ;)
I attended my best friend’s HS graduation that day in the darkness of the ash-snow, made good money that summer working with my friend’s brother cleaning ash from people’s gutters and roofs. I knew families that lost lives and cabins on the lake that day. Time, what a concept.
Well, a look at Mt. Hood is like looking into the future and/or past of Mt. St. Helen's, so there is that.
There is a spot on US 20 west of Portland you can stop and see St. Helen's, Rainier and I think Adams in one vista (why state of Oregon or whichever county the spot is in doesn't have a park there is a mystery to me).
Big Bad Weather is hiding the real causes of destruction and disease, just like AIDS. They don't want us worrying about poverty or drug pushing, nor the state of soil infertility or the overfished oceans; that would harm the petrochemical and fishing industries https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/omg-i-get-it-just-like-aids-and-covid
I experienced the eruption while in Colorado on work. How anyone can review the news coverage of the event, or talk to someone who was there, and still claim that human-produced CO2 is THE controlling force in global warming requires a level of cognitive dissonance I've never been able to achieve.
"Yes but they say all the experts agree, so there must be something to it"
---
"All the other apes are throwing a rock when they pass that tree stump, so there must be something to it."
As a species, we're not that much smarter and any group can only be as smart as its least smart/most stupid member. (Gogmagog damn autocorrect, I did not mean to write "assmart" instead of "as smart"!)
A quick serach proved that any articles discussing this (volcanoes/emissions) have been curated. A lot of "volcanoes do not contribute, that's a conspiracy theory" and very little data or facts.
Scientific American from 2009 actually mentioned that volcanic eruptions such as Mt Saint Helens or Pinatubo seem to create a cooling effect instead, and a rather large one at that, o.5C globally for the year after the eruption. As per usual with climate science, correlation equals causation.
I still want climate believers to explain why my ancestors could grow grapes at 50 North, or why Europe and the Near Orient were more than 2C warmer 2 000 years ago. Did the romans drive SUVs or something?
PS: Crater Lake is quite awesome, too! I have a bunch of postcards from there. The best part is there aren't any people in them! My brother would love Ape Cave!
I also think people who live in Seattle are crazy. Mt Ranier could take them all out! Then there's the tectonic plate subduction zone that is stuck. If it goes, I've heard everything west of I-5 will bite the dust. It would probably set off Mt Ranier, too. Idiots! But then, they do live in Washington State...
Yessss! Mt Shasta in CA, too! Hawaii isn't really part of it, even though it has eruptions all the time. My favorite volcano is Krakatoa. I did my 10th grade presentation, complete with maps, for English. It didn't go well but I had such fun drawing the maps!
Told you - volcano nerd!! The tectonic plate in the Strait of Juan de Fuca is where the stuck subduction zone, that Seattle mostly knows nothing about, is. That's the only way a lot of CA will fall into the ocean. We used to joke in Yuma that we'd all have ocean-front when the "Big One" hit CA. Didn't happen. Darn.
this brings to mind the current "climate change will be the end of all life on Earth soon" talk.
from my understanding, this planet has gone through 5-6 ice ages, contrasted by the following glacier melt and we are still here. we have also gone through as many mass extinction level events, including the dinosaur killer astroid that knocked out 95% of all life (looking out my window, I would say we recovered well).
but we are being told that the next decade of emissions is worse than a giant freaking ASTEROID?!?
let's be clear, Earth will be fine. life will continue, as on Mt. Saint Helens...it's really the human life that is at risk...
That's been my experience, and what I've heard elsewhere, too.
Do you remember when I responded to you on Glenn Greenwald's old substack, saying I'd sub to you if you started one? I think you said you were thinking about it, but I got the feeling you were already way past the notion. Then, I missed your first few columns and just had to catch up!
I remember you from my first days of subbing GG, and always liked your writing. In fact you were one of those amazing posters who made me fully realize that substack was for readers like me, if it was writers like you at all.
I was drawn to Substack because of the way that the incentives are aligned (subscribers vs advertisers), but I was still on the fence until I got booted from Twitter.
I figured if they wanted to shut me up that bad, it was imperative that I keep screaming.
Isn't it funny the course of events, in hindsight, and how things seem to go in full circles. With Elon and Tucker, is the "new" Twitter becoming...hmm, not the "old substack," but maybe the next iteration? (I assume you are/can-be back on Twitter; my wife is my Twitter feed.)
I am not social media savvy by a long shot, as you know, but I'm curious what you think the future holds for writers like you. Is the landscape destined to be ever-changing? Can't an old reader, who 1) has never wanted to write until he could converse with strangers-who-were-strange-just-like-me* on substack, and 2) doesn't want to stop finding more of these little conversations with amazing strangers, but 3) also doesn't want to spend his precious remaining time learning new tech interfaces (but I do love tech, as you know), can't an old reader like me find you and your amazing loyals here forever, please, even when I disappear for months at a time, only to over-post and lose you subscribers (my greatest fear!) when my new (at 62!) need to troll and tease bursts forth like the good saint's lava, only much more frequently (hey, I'm 62!)?
Edit: whoops, forgot to add the subnote reference.
*who actually *wanted* to talk (and vent and rail and...) politics, philosophy, economics, history, geography, and most of all our desire to bond as Americans (in spirit, foreigners always welcome to join the best way, by caring enough to comment) in wanting, always, to improve our nation.
Last I checked my account is still banned, even after Musk promised "amnesty". I set up an account to just follow people and get news that way, it got hacked and Twitter isn't interested in restoring it.
Suffice it to say I'm not really that interested in what Twitter offers.
I'm actually working on an article about what the future holds as it pertains to AI and near-automatic content generation. You don't wanna miss it :)
Fun fact: Substack now has a "generate image" option, likely powered by some sort of AI. During a conversation yesterday my buddy mentioned that "Denver looks like how Golden State should have looked." Me being a smartass, I asked the AI to generate a picture of Stephen Curry on a couch.
I keep wondering if any of the peeps I have interacted acted with remotely (that's what we said even before we were "online", tee hee) are, indeed, robots, or..."robots", and now, how do i know whether i am talking to an artificial intelligence, as if that would *not* be a copy of *any* mere sentient animal, i.e. it would be (apparently, *is*) a brand new thing in the universe, and, therefore (one would think?) *not* artificial at all, but more importantly when talking about a 100% *human* trait, such as intelligence, you're gonna have to convince me it *isn't* more "intelligent" than I.
Otherwise, I'm gonna blow it up, and then vote to put more restrictions on your freedom. Yes, unilaterally if I have to, which *is* a threat, but I trust my friends here to know how much I value my freedom, whose personal definition includes their equal freedom.*
* It *would* be easier if all I had to do was worry about *my* freedom, but I don't wanna be no gun-totin' mountain man. Too un-sedentary.
Yet (surprise surprise), most people didn't have to be forced to leave because they could see the danger. Same with covid -- people started changing their behavior long before government got their hands in it, and if it the virus really had been as scary as they hyped, people would have been voluntarily staying isolated.
I remember how happy everyone was to see each other soon after they put the lockdown in place. The strangers at the grocery store became people that were wonderful, dear friends (lots of smiles and niceness) that I wanted to hug. I don't know what I'd have done without my crazy family. Isolating people was the cruelest thing in the world. I don't think anyone escaped being damaged. B@stards. I turned from someone who was fairly quiet to someone who will talk to just about anyone - and their pets, too!
sulfur. it helps the plants absorb more nutrients.
people who live in 'blue zones' live the longest, healthiest lives. many scientists have gone on about what they eat and their lifestyles but none of them noticed the bloody great mountain sized volcano spewing out sulfur, feeding the land
I was thirteen and living in Portland when St. Helens erupted. There was a large hill nearby with a perfect view, so I rode my bike to the top and watched in fascination for hours. It really was quite a spectacle.
In the following weeks and months I had the great "pleasure" of helping clean ash out of our plugged-up gutters multiple times. After that it didn't hold quite the same appeal for me.
I never have visited St. Helens in all the years since the eruption, so I still remember it from camping at Spirit Lake as a little kid and being amazed at floating rocks on the crystal clear water. At the time I had no idea the pumice was from previous eruptions or that it was perfect foreshadowing of what would happen years later.
sulfur. it helps the plants absorb more nutrients.
people who live in 'blue zones' live the longest, healthiest lives, many scientists have gone on about what they eat and their lifestyles but none of them noticed the bloody great mountain sized volcano spewing out sulfur, feeding the land
Every clear day on my way to work I get a good view st Hellen’s, and hood. Im a Chicago native, my love for growing things brought me to the west coast. I thought I was a nature person before coming here, but truthfully the mountain landscape out here might be the prettiest thing I’ve ever seen. The cascade range is breathtaking im not sure that anything compares to it, at least in the United States. Since I’ve come here there has been a lot of unnecessary fires blamed on global warming of course. I really hope we can stop these people before it’s to late. I for one can’t sit back and watch anyone who believes they are special enough to cause the kind of destruction these small minded rich shit bags are causing. I can’t fathom why anyone would want to destroy something so amazing. I really hope they choke on there entitlement one day.
Have you had a chance to actually get up to the mountain yet? It's a combination of humbling and awe-inspiring that's a pretty unique feeling.......
I’ve been on ranier and stevens, I haven’t had the opportunity to explore hood or st Hellen’s yet. I do a lot of fishing, and I have a love for mycology so I adventure when I can. I’ve been thinking alot about going mushrooms hunting near St. Helens then I saw that post. I really need to get up there, I’m sure it’s amazing. So far this area has yet to disappoint me. The size of the trees out here alone blows my mind every day!
It's a bit late in the year this year, but if you hit up St. Helens between late spring or late summer, it's a gorgeous trip. (Don't want to run into fog up there)
Some volcanos are under water, not the atmosphere ;)
I attended my best friend’s HS graduation that day in the darkness of the ash-snow, made good money that summer working with my friend’s brother cleaning ash from people’s gutters and roofs. I knew families that lost lives and cabins on the lake that day. Time, what a concept.
I was living in Vancouver Canada at the time. I remember it from afar, the amazing stories of the people around it. Thank you for sharing this.
Feel free to laugh at me because I just realized I didn’t go to Mt. St. Helen’s , I went to Mt. Hood. 🤣🤣🤣
Well, a look at Mt. Hood is like looking into the future and/or past of Mt. St. Helen's, so there is that.
There is a spot on US 20 west of Portland you can stop and see St. Helen's, Rainier and I think Adams in one vista (why state of Oregon or whichever county the spot is in doesn't have a park there is a mystery to me).
Big Bad Weather is hiding the real causes of destruction and disease, just like AIDS. They don't want us worrying about poverty or drug pushing, nor the state of soil infertility or the overfished oceans; that would harm the petrochemical and fishing industries https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/omg-i-get-it-just-like-aids-and-covid
I experienced the eruption while in Colorado on work. How anyone can review the news coverage of the event, or talk to someone who was there, and still claim that human-produced CO2 is THE controlling force in global warming requires a level of cognitive dissonance I've never been able to achieve.
"...a level of cognitive dissonance I've never been able to achieve."
TRY TO KEEP IT THIS WAY!
"Yes but they say all the experts agree, so there must be something to it"
---
"All the other apes are throwing a rock when they pass that tree stump, so there must be something to it."
As a species, we're not that much smarter and any group can only be as smart as its least smart/most stupid member. (Gogmagog damn autocorrect, I did not mean to write "assmart" instead of "as smart"!)
A quick serach proved that any articles discussing this (volcanoes/emissions) have been curated. A lot of "volcanoes do not contribute, that's a conspiracy theory" and very little data or facts.
Scientific American from 2009 actually mentioned that volcanic eruptions such as Mt Saint Helens or Pinatubo seem to create a cooling effect instead, and a rather large one at that, o.5C globally for the year after the eruption. As per usual with climate science, correlation equals causation.
I still want climate believers to explain why my ancestors could grow grapes at 50 North, or why Europe and the Near Orient were more than 2C warmer 2 000 years ago. Did the romans drive SUVs or something?
I lived through an exceptionally cold summer in England, due to an Icelandic volcano eruption - it disrupted plane travel as well
An extra MDMCCXIV Denari for the Coleseum Trim. Decoration for Equus sold separately.
PS: Crater Lake is quite awesome, too! I have a bunch of postcards from there. The best part is there aren't any people in them! My brother would love Ape Cave!
I also think people who live in Seattle are crazy. Mt Ranier could take them all out! Then there's the tectonic plate subduction zone that is stuck. If it goes, I've heard everything west of I-5 will bite the dust. It would probably set off Mt Ranier, too. Idiots! But then, they do live in Washington State...
Oops...geeked out again!
I remember learning about the "Ring of Fire" in grade school, and it terrified me because I had Mount Saint Helens as an example.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Ring-of-Fire
Yessss! Mt Shasta in CA, too! Hawaii isn't really part of it, even though it has eruptions all the time. My favorite volcano is Krakatoa. I did my 10th grade presentation, complete with maps, for English. It didn't go well but I had such fun drawing the maps!
Told you - volcano nerd!! The tectonic plate in the Strait of Juan de Fuca is where the stuck subduction zone, that Seattle mostly knows nothing about, is. That's the only way a lot of CA will fall into the ocean. We used to joke in Yuma that we'd all have ocean-front when the "Big One" hit CA. Didn't happen. Darn.
.........yet!
this brings to mind the current "climate change will be the end of all life on Earth soon" talk.
from my understanding, this planet has gone through 5-6 ice ages, contrasted by the following glacier melt and we are still here. we have also gone through as many mass extinction level events, including the dinosaur killer astroid that knocked out 95% of all life (looking out my window, I would say we recovered well).
but we are being told that the next decade of emissions is worse than a giant freaking ASTEROID?!?
let's be clear, Earth will be fine. life will continue, as on Mt. Saint Helens...it's really the human life that is at risk...
M. Sim, I just had to tell you how much I am enjoying the commenting, as if you couldn't notice, but hey.
Best comment section on the 'Stack.
That's been my experience, and what I've heard elsewhere, too.
Do you remember when I responded to you on Glenn Greenwald's old substack, saying I'd sub to you if you started one? I think you said you were thinking about it, but I got the feeling you were already way past the notion. Then, I missed your first few columns and just had to catch up!
I remember you from my first days of subbing GG, and always liked your writing. In fact you were one of those amazing posters who made me fully realize that substack was for readers like me, if it was writers like you at all.
And *then* I noticed your avatar! LOL at me!!
Well. Thanks, again.
I was drawn to Substack because of the way that the incentives are aligned (subscribers vs advertisers), but I was still on the fence until I got booted from Twitter.
I figured if they wanted to shut me up that bad, it was imperative that I keep screaming.
Isn't it funny the course of events, in hindsight, and how things seem to go in full circles. With Elon and Tucker, is the "new" Twitter becoming...hmm, not the "old substack," but maybe the next iteration? (I assume you are/can-be back on Twitter; my wife is my Twitter feed.)
I am not social media savvy by a long shot, as you know, but I'm curious what you think the future holds for writers like you. Is the landscape destined to be ever-changing? Can't an old reader, who 1) has never wanted to write until he could converse with strangers-who-were-strange-just-like-me* on substack, and 2) doesn't want to stop finding more of these little conversations with amazing strangers, but 3) also doesn't want to spend his precious remaining time learning new tech interfaces (but I do love tech, as you know), can't an old reader like me find you and your amazing loyals here forever, please, even when I disappear for months at a time, only to over-post and lose you subscribers (my greatest fear!) when my new (at 62!) need to troll and tease bursts forth like the good saint's lava, only much more frequently (hey, I'm 62!)?
Edit: whoops, forgot to add the subnote reference.
*who actually *wanted* to talk (and vent and rail and...) politics, philosophy, economics, history, geography, and most of all our desire to bond as Americans (in spirit, foreigners always welcome to join the best way, by caring enough to comment) in wanting, always, to improve our nation.
Last I checked my account is still banned, even after Musk promised "amnesty". I set up an account to just follow people and get news that way, it got hacked and Twitter isn't interested in restoring it.
Suffice it to say I'm not really that interested in what Twitter offers.
I'm actually working on an article about what the future holds as it pertains to AI and near-automatic content generation. You don't wanna miss it :)
Fun fact: Substack now has a "generate image" option, likely powered by some sort of AI. During a conversation yesterday my buddy mentioned that "Denver looks like how Golden State should have looked." Me being a smartass, I asked the AI to generate a picture of Stephen Curry on a couch.
Behold and despair:
https://imgur.com/a/Y0IIUul
I keep wondering if any of the peeps I have interacted acted with remotely (that's what we said even before we were "online", tee hee) are, indeed, robots, or..."robots", and now, how do i know whether i am talking to an artificial intelligence, as if that would *not* be a copy of *any* mere sentient animal, i.e. it would be (apparently, *is*) a brand new thing in the universe, and, therefore (one would think?) *not* artificial at all, but more importantly when talking about a 100% *human* trait, such as intelligence, you're gonna have to convince me it *isn't* more "intelligent" than I.
Otherwise, I'm gonna blow it up, and then vote to put more restrictions on your freedom. Yes, unilaterally if I have to, which *is* a threat, but I trust my friends here to know how much I value my freedom, whose personal definition includes their equal freedom.*
* It *would* be easier if all I had to do was worry about *my* freedom, but I don't wanna be no gun-totin' mountain man. Too un-sedentary.
OMG! Did you send it to your buddy? lol
But...that doesn't look like Curry to me, but I haven't watched the NBA for years, now.
And...what happened to his left leg? Ohhh! It's Curry as a teenager, 'cause your knees are the first to stiffen.
Nicely said. Thank you.
Two points for everyone who knows who Harry Truman was, vis a vis May 18 1980.
One of the first real-life "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me" heroes that I came across in my life :)
I hadn't thought of the St. Helens evacuation zone as a sort of lockdown, but it was.
Yet (surprise surprise), most people didn't have to be forced to leave because they could see the danger. Same with covid -- people started changing their behavior long before government got their hands in it, and if it the virus really had been as scary as they hyped, people would have been voluntarily staying isolated.
I remember how happy everyone was to see each other soon after they put the lockdown in place. The strangers at the grocery store became people that were wonderful, dear friends (lots of smiles and niceness) that I wanted to hug. I don't know what I'd have done without my crazy family. Isolating people was the cruelest thing in the world. I don't think anyone escaped being damaged. B@stards. I turned from someone who was fairly quiet to someone who will talk to just about anyone - and their pets, too!
sulfur. it helps the plants absorb more nutrients.
people who live in 'blue zones' live the longest, healthiest lives. many scientists have gone on about what they eat and their lifestyles but none of them noticed the bloody great mountain sized volcano spewing out sulfur, feeding the land
Omg, so well said.
We evolved *with* the land. Volcanoes are as human as the water cycle.
While Mother Nature may heal herself, it remains to be seen whether Human Kind can do the same! (Yup, that’s me, ever the optimist! Wink wink!)
Fellow optimist seeing through your skepticism, and sharing your guarded outlook.
The problem is that the "eruption" is still occurring in society because there are people who WANT the division.
Hey, I've been waiting for months for this column.
You had to wait until Mount Saint Helens day!
I know! (tee hee.)
I was thirteen and living in Portland when St. Helens erupted. There was a large hill nearby with a perfect view, so I rode my bike to the top and watched in fascination for hours. It really was quite a spectacle.
In the following weeks and months I had the great "pleasure" of helping clean ash out of our plugged-up gutters multiple times. After that it didn't hold quite the same appeal for me.
I never have visited St. Helens in all the years since the eruption, so I still remember it from camping at Spirit Lake as a little kid and being amazed at floating rocks on the crystal clear water. At the time I had no idea the pumice was from previous eruptions or that it was perfect foreshadowing of what would happen years later.
Yes, and expert opinion decreed it would be a horrid wasteland for generations.
Nature has indeed refuted the experts, and that is a lesson to take to heart.
Interestingly, I remember that the two years following the eruption, we were getting the best tasting apples from Washington State I had ever eaten!
That’s interesting!! Richer soil???
sulfur. it helps the plants absorb more nutrients.
people who live in 'blue zones' live the longest, healthiest lives, many scientists have gone on about what they eat and their lifestyles but none of them noticed the bloody great mountain sized volcano spewing out sulfur, feeding the land
Omg, so well said.
We evolved *with* the land. Volcanoes are as human as the water cycle.
Thank you! So interesting.
Shades of Chernobyl.
Future column, I hope.